outside views, tactics, and realism

Nemo66 · 03-22-15, 11:51 AM

Hi folks!

There are 2 major sorts of cams in the game: (forget the stupid pop-up-action cam)

F12 - FREE CAM

Starting right above your tower, you can go wherever you want with it. Nice, but totally unrealistic.

semicolon/point key - UNIT CAM

You see your sub from the outside, and by stepping further, you can see all units, either friendly, neutral or enemies that you or you crew have detected yet.

The UNIT CAMS make the game way too easy and unrealistic i think. You can check out enemies in far distances, identifying targets is way too easy then. Also you can see other units in visual range of the detected unit, that have not been detected yet.
So if you want to go for more realism, you can choose "outside view off", so you just have the perspective from your boat, and no outside view at all.

But i would like to have another option: No F12 FREE CAM, but my own boat in unit cam, and no other units whatsoever. Also i would like to get a lot closer to my boat with unit cam, this is possible with F12 FREE CAM, but not with unit cam.

For now i handle it that way, that i never use F12 by myself, and only use unit cam with only once hitting the key, so i just see my boat and no other units as i don't step any further. But this is hard discipline for me, and from time to time i catch myself not following my own orders.

I would like to have a third option for that realism setting, so i don't have to rely on my own discipline only.
How do you see this issue, how do you make use of the outside views /cams, and how do you think it affects realism?
Does anyone of you know if these two issues are adressed in any of the mods/supermods?

To my oppinion, it's not possible to get full realism in a game or even a PC sim. I think it is ok to use some "unrealistic" features in order to compensate some things that can't be modelled in a PC, like the wind on your skin, the shaking of the boat in your guts, a general sense of orientation or just your sense of balance. Also the communication with your crew is restricted due to the programm, in real life you would get a lot more detailed information. So i don't want to be too restricted in what i do in my boat, because i am restricted anyway by playing in front of a PC and not being in a real boat. The unit cam for my own boat only would give me better orientation, but would not give away too much tactical information about the enemies.

03-22-15, 11:51 AM	#1
Nemo66 Bosun Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: munich, germany Posts: 68 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	outside views, tactics, and realism Hi folks! There are 2 major sorts of cams in the game: (forget the stupid pop-up-action cam) F12 - FREE CAM Starting right above your tower, you can go wherever you want with it. Nice, but totally unrealistic. semicolon/point key - UNIT CAM You see your sub from the outside, and by stepping further, you can see all units, either friendly, neutral or enemies that you or you crew have detected yet. The UNIT CAMS make the game way too easy and unrealistic i think. You can check out enemies in far distances, identifying targets is way too easy then. Also you can see other units in visual range of the detected unit, that have not been detected yet. So if you want to go for more realism, you can choose "outside view off", so you just have the perspective from your boat, and no outside view at all. But i would like to have another option: No F12 FREE CAM, but my own boat in unit cam, and no other units whatsoever. Also i would like to get a lot closer to my boat with unit cam, this is possible with F12 FREE CAM, but not with unit cam. For now i handle it that way, that i never use F12 by myself, and only use unit cam with only once hitting the key, so i just see my boat and no other units as i don't step any further. But this is hard discipline for me, and from time to time i catch myself not following my own orders. I would like to have a third option for that realism setting, so i don't have to rely on my own discipline only. How do you see this issue, how do you make use of the outside views /cams, and how do you think it affects realism? Does anyone of you know if these two issues are adressed in any of the mods/supermods? To my oppinion, it's not possible to get full realism in a game or even a PC sim. I think it is ok to use some "unrealistic" features in order to compensate some things that can't be modelled in a PC, like the wind on your skin, the shaking of the boat in your guts, a general sense of orientation or just your sense of balance. Also the communication with your crew is restricted due to the programm, in real life you would get a lot more detailed information. So i don't want to be too restricted in what i do in my boat, because i am restricted anyway by playing in front of a PC and not being in a real boat. The unit cam for my own boat only would give me better orientation, but would not give away too much tactical information about the enemies.