What Would You Have Done? New KTB

[Gustav Schiebert]

After a little break I've started making up my KTBs again. This one is from a patrol I did yesterday, and it comes with a little dilemma. I won't give too much away, it's a very short patrol but basically I end up with heavy damage and have to decide whether to return to base or not. (Creative license taken in writing - wen I 'ask BdU for permisson', that's me just texting my mate and asking him for what he thinks, then that becomes BdU's orders).

U-46 First Patrol

[sublynx]

Nice report about a near-destruction experience A return trip after the damage, for sure.

[Gustav Schiebert]

Now, y'see that's what I thought. Two dead crew and all those bust systems, I turned straight round and headed home.

But after about six hours all the systems were repaired, with the significant exceptions of the bow caps and attack periscope. But I could certainly have still tracked convoys even if I couldn't have attacked them.

When I got back in and looked at the patrol report, the Hull Integrity said 95% ... despite the boat showing all the signs of being on the edge of destuction, such as a total inability to hold depth, adgitated warnings from the Enigineer that we were 'taking damage' at 100m, etc. So now I think I could have got away with staying out there.

Thanks for reading, glad you enjoyed it

Originally Posted by sublynx

Nice report about a near-destruction experience A return trip after the damage, for sure.

[HW3]

Unsure of the condition of the boat, and the safety of the crew at stake, definitely head for home. It is better to play it safe, and live to fight another day, than to take the chance and lose the boat and crew too.

[Jimbuna]

Your primary concern should always be for your boat and crew....return to base.

[flag4]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Your primary concern should always be for your boat and crew....return to base.

[sublynx]

Originally Posted by Gustav Schiebert

So now I think I could have got away with staying out there.

But when you made the decision you didn't know. What you knew was that you had been badly damaged and that the officer responsible for the technical functioning of the boat was warning about more damage.

+ the game does not simulate taking care of your crew. I would think that after the death of two of their mates and the risk on their lives and the unknown condition of the boat, the crewmen would have seen you as a pretty ruthless commander, if you had continued on. I remember reading somewhere that during the later war years there were suspicions that the crewmen had caused malfunctions on the boat to force a return trip. The respect of your crewmen is a precious thing and even if it is not simulated, there is no reason we can't play as if it was a part of the game. Of course the balancing between making the crewmen to function well under danger and on the other hand not risking their lives unnecessarily, is really not easy at all and in this sense the decision was not easy either.

Anyways I think it was a good decision and in the spirit of the game - of course depending on what kind of a commander you would like to play as

[Gustav Schiebert]

Thanks for reading and for the advice chaps. Having slept on it a bit, I think I was being a bit harsh on myself with hindsight. I try to play as realistic as possible, and having read a lot of KTBs where Donitz writes on scathing comments about commanders who return to base with minor damage I was keen to avoid that. Also, the key factor about not being able to do underwater torpedo attacks was pretty key.

Donitz himself in Ten Years and Twenty Days makes it pretty clear he expected commanders to be totally unwavering, single minded and persistent but if I was doing this IRL, sublynx you are spot on with the whole crew respect thing. And at the end of the day he who fights and runs away...

Perhaps overthinking slightly but this is exactly the sort of thing I like to do, and that SH3 and SUBSIM help you do, is take the game further and use it as a really good historical tool to understand a little bit more about what life is like.

Anyway, thanks again for reading that and for your thoughts, despite my initial reservations I'm coming round to agree with you now. Oblt z S Wils is going to have another go, as his Second War Patrol is coming up shortly, I shall keep you posted...

[sublynx]

Originally Posted by Gustav Schiebert

Perhaps overthinking slightly but this is exactly the sort of thing I like to do, and that SH3 and SUBSIM help you do, is take the game further and use it as a really good historical tool to understand a little bit more about what life is like.

Oblt z S Wils is going to have another go, as his Second War Patrol is coming up shortly, I shall keep you posted...

That's good to hear, it's always nice to hear a detailed description on how other players approach the game. I feel that the one thing that sets SH3 apart from most other games is the feeling that it can actually give some sense about the historical era the game's based on