Trouble in Suez Canal

Feuer Frei! · 09-30-14, 07:17 PM

What the heck?

2 Large Container Ships collide. Or should i say 1 ship collides into the other:

http://www.ora.tv/newsbreaker/shocke...0_4nrut1ne6xy9

Kapitan, you are on drugs i think.

Oberon · 09-30-14, 09:19 PM

Someone got their pilots license from the back of a cornflakes box...

09-30-14, 09:43 PM

How is that even possible?!

Feuer Frei! · 09-30-14, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

How is that even possible?!

Only thing i can think of is that it was deliberate...? Looks really bad.

No rudder/steering failure (unless temporary) since the ship veered off after impact.

Armistead · 09-30-14, 10:33 PM

I'm not reading it, enough crap to deal with today. My world can only take so much more bad news....

eddie · 09-30-14, 10:45 PM

Looks like Somali pirates are out of control! If they don't get their ransom, its time to go to ramming speed!

Feuer Frei! · 09-30-14, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I'm not reading it, enough crap to deal with today. My world can only take so much more bad news....

Nothing to read.

Sit back, relax, kick up your heels and watch the entertainment

Aktungbby · 09-30-14, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

How is that even possible?!

Oh it's possible! The Colombo Express is completely at fault for right of way foul to vessel ahead :MV Maersk Tanjong, ( overtaking by starboard) and then over-corrected possibly for shallow water to starboard. Some SC pilot will lose his license on this one. The convoy system allows ships to transit the Canal at fixed speed and with fixed separating distance between every two ships.
The transit speed limit is 11 - 16 km/hr for ships according to the type & net tonnage of ship and direction & speed of tidal current.
The emergency stopping time between the ships in the convoys is about 10 min.
Vessel takes from 12 - 16 hours to transit the canal.
The interval between vessels in a convoy is about 10-16 minutes which is equivalent to 2-3 km distance.
There are 15 Pilotage Stations at the western bank of the Canal that along side with the traffic control office offer assistance for the passage of vessels.
Pilotage by SC pilots is compulsory for all transiting vessels. The SCA assigns four pilots for each transiting vessel; each one embarks and disembarks the vessel at a certain location as follows:

The first pilot boards the vessel at the northern waiting area and disembarks at the entrance of the Canal in Port-Said.
The second pilot boards the vessel in Port-Said and disembarks in Ismailia.
The Third pilot boards the vessel in Ismailia and disembarks in Suez.
The fourth pilot boards the vessel in Suez until it leaves the Canal into the open sea. http://www.suezcanal.gov.eg/sc.aspx?show=13 Of some interest to occasional ship watchers as myself :https://www.fleetmon.com/en/vessels/Colombo_Express_50872

Herr-Berbunch · 10-01-14, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Someone got their pilots license from the back of a cornflakes box...

Or simply worked in security like Costa Concordia's captain.

Downunderjock · 10-01-14, 05:55 AM

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/video-shows-dramatic-crash-between-two-container-ships-on-egypts-suez-canal/story-fnh81ifq-1227076377314

This is what can happen, because of over competition, in the Real World.
Not Safe, Not Funny and very Dangerous.
Good thing it wasn't a Cruise Ship with lot's of people on board or a ship carrying Nuclear waste, among other harmful things, to lives and the environment.
When are we going, to stop being so stupid.

Jimbuna · 10-01-14, 06:32 AM

Collisions aren't all that common but the causes are....vying for pole position in the convoy to enter the canal first and therefore for open sea upon exit.

Not been through the canal since the late seventies but I've always thought it fairer and wiser to issue vessels with positional slots in advance rather than first come first served.

Feuer Frei! · 10-01-14, 06:36 AM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=215879

Jimbuna · 10-01-14, 06:53 AM

Threads merged.

Feuer Frei! · 10-01-14, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Downunderjock

This is what can happen, because of over competition

No. This is what can happen when someone incompetent is operating a vessel.

Quote:

When are we going, to stop being so stupid.

Never. Because some of us are born that way.

STEED · 10-01-14, 11:08 AM

The invasion was kept hush hush, oh wait your talking about something completely different.

09-30-14, 07:17 PM	#1
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Trouble in Suez Canal What the heck? 2 Large Container Ships collide. Or should i say 1 ship collides into the other: http://www.ora.tv/newsbreaker/shocke...0_4nrut1ne6xy9 Kapitan, you are on drugs i think. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

09-30-14, 10:33 PM	#5
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I'm not reading it, enough crap to deal with today. My world can only take so much more bad news.... __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Looks like Somali pirates are out of control! If they don't get their ransom, its time to go to ramming speed! __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

10-01-14, 05:55 AM	#10
Downunderjock Mate Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Geelong, Australia Posts: 55 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	NEWS as it happens, Real life ship collision. Suez Canal, today. http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/video-shows-dramatic-crash-between-two-container-ships-on-egypts-suez-canal/story-fnh81ifq-1227076377314 This is what can happen, because of over competition, in the Real World. Not Safe, Not Funny and very Dangerous. Good thing it wasn't a Cruise Ship with lot's of people on board or a ship carrying Nuclear waste, among other harmful things, to lives and the environment. When are we going, to stop being so stupid.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Collisions aren't all that common but the causes are....vying for pole position in the convoy to enter the canal first and therefore for open sea upon exit. Not been through the canal since the late seventies but I've always thought it fairer and wiser to issue vessels with positional slots in advance rather than first come first served. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Someone got their pilots license from the back of a cornflakes box...

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Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	How is that even possible?!

10-01-14, 06:36 AM	#12
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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Threads merged. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	The invasion was kept hush hush, oh wait your talking about something completely different. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!