No I do not hate.

[mapuc]

I do not hate a Muslim. I hate a fanatical Muslim, but I do also hate a fanatical political person, I do also hate a fanatical football supporter.

Or to say I hate everything that's fanatical or extreme whatever it's religious, political, sport or whatever.

However I live in a democracy so they have the right to be fanatical, as long they don't break any law(s) or push/press their beliefs on others

Markus

[vanjast]

Before you lose it..
There are fanatics in every sphere of life, not just Muslim.
Even the Christians are 'cuckoo', maybe more so than your local Muslim.

Red wine is a good relax'ant

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by vanjast

Before you lose it..
There are fanatics in every sphere of life, not just Muslim.
Even the Christians are 'cuckoo', maybe more so than your local Muslim.

Red wine is a good relax'ant

I think I mentioned it in

"I hate everything that's fanatical or extreme whatever it's religious, political, sport or whatever."

I don't drink wine. or alcohol for that matter.

Markus

[vanjast]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I don't drink wine. or alcohol for that matter.

Well, that's your problem then...

The more alcohol you drink the better you feel about the world, until you fall over.. that is !!

I'm on my 5th wineglass and feeling really great... and have no problems what-so-ever..

[Skybird]

Stop contradicting yourself, mapuc.

A Muslim not being fanatic could be argued to not be a real Muslim, since Muslim ideology educates people to be fanatics, and favours totalitarianism, suppression and discrimination. Where they are not, the education has failed, and they are not not fanatical because of Islam's teachings, but despite Islam's teachings.

Muhammad did not want to send a choire of kids singing chants to pacify the world, he wanted obedient tribes paying protective money, and wanted warriors to wage war in order to spread his sphere of influence.

The ideology reflects that. It'S a warrior's excuse to conquer the world and enforce his will on all others.

For German readers:

http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/a...l?config=print

Some years ago, I already mentioned this man in some thread. I once met him, we had some minutes of brief but intense talking. Back then he still appeared a bit naive to me, and too dreamfully wishing for illusions. Meanwhile, he has written more books, and the events of the socalled Arab Spring seem to have left him impressed (at least that is my assumption), for he now voices far more determined criticism and less wishfull hopes, and uses far more plain and straight wordings.

Needless to say that he makes himself no friends by that, but is threatened with murder and lives under 24/7 protection.

Good man.

The socialists have thrown him out of the Islam conference that the government holds with radical Islamic organisations, they have also refused several insiders and academically educated experts of Muslim descent because they criticise Islam and the conference - and that they do because of the infantile naivety of the politicians, and because the conference simply has skipped the problem of exploding Muslim radicalisation in Germany from it's agenda and tells the public it does not happen. Out of sight - out of mind. Problem solved!

But we have now build or still build the first mosque on a public university's property (right here in my hometown), while neither Jews nor Christians were allowed or have ever demanded to build a temple of theirs within any German university, anywhere.

We tolerate them into integration, I tell you. We teach them what Islam really is! And when they see it, they will be thankful for us! Without us, they never would have understood what Islam really is. I mean, what it really really is.

The prof for Islamic studies at said university (the first religious faculty of its kind here in Germany, I still cannot believe that they did this BS) for my taste is a hawk, but for the taste of Muslim communities in Germany he is too tolerant. They try to mob him out.

I do not hate a Muslim

that's nice mapuc.
balanced, thought out, reasonable.

whereas.

A Muslim not being fanatic could be argued to not be a real Muslim

That's someone who hates muslims.
not balanced, thought out or reasonable.
An interesting link to verify one of the more obvious lies Skybirds hate has led him to tell.
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/174705.article

[Jimbuna]

Subscribed to.

[Betonov]

Actually you do hate.
But, is it wrong to hate people that think it's right to kill you just because you don't conform to their narrow minded beliefs.
I don't thinks so. Hating people that hate you is a defence system

[TarJak]

I dislike the overuse of the word hate. Hate is a very strong passionate word that I prefer to reserve for people whose impact on my life is negative in a very significant way.

There's noone I can think of at the moment in those terms.

[banryu79]

Originally Posted by TarJak

I dislike the overuse of the word hate. Hate is a very strong passionate word that I prefer to reserve for people whose impact on my life is negative in a very significant way.

I agree. I will say: in a very direct, practical way.

[Wolferz]

I won't hate people of any stripe. I hate their deeds. Especially if those deeds are aimed at subjugation and compliance to some fanatic's idea of how I should live MY life

"I like me best".

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

that's nice mapuc.
balanced, thought out, reasonable.

whereas.
That's someone who hates muslims.
not balanced, thought out or reasonable.
An interesting link to verify one of the more obvious lies Skybirds hate has led him to tell.
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/174705.article

I just refuse to put an ordinary Muslim man, who makes no sound of him or his family-He go to work, he pay his bills a.s.o...I refuse to put him and others like him in the same box as those fanatical Muslim.

Skybird is not the only one who have written as such, many of my friends on FB have told me that you can't rely on them. Well until nothing else happens I refuse to believe on that.

In my country it is not the Muslim that demands removal of Christmas celebration in the school, it is not the Muslim who demand removal of pork from school lunch or from hospital. No it is our own elected politician who think they do the Muslim a great favour by removing things that's traditional to the danes.

Markus

[mapuc]

The idea to this thread was from a friends friend who had posted a picture on FB in this picture there was many words and it said:

"It was Muslim behind 9/11"
"It was Muslim behind the Madrid Bombing"
"It was... and so on"

Yes it was Muslim behind all these bombing...BUT it was Fanatical Muslim.

The reply in this thread was terrible to read.
That's why I made this thread here.

I could perhaps have used another word than "Hate" I couldn't find any similar

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I could perhaps have used another word than "Hate" I couldn't find any similar

Markus

If you want the thread title changed let me know.

One suggestion 'I do not care for'.

I just refuse to put an ordinary Muslim man, who makes no sound of him or his family-He go to work, he pay his bills a.s.o...I refuse to put him and others like him in the same box as those fanatical Muslim.

That is because you are not a fanatic.
It is only fanatics that would take such a view.

Skybird is not the only one who have written as such, many of my friends on FB have told me that you can't rely on them.

Yes, there are quite a few fanatics around.

I could perhaps have used another word than "Hate" I couldn't find any similar

I find "pity" to be a more appropriate word, you do have to feel slightly sorry for people who are fanatics as they are displaying the signs of insanity