Surface sim with campaign?

gord96 · 03-26-14, 10:57 AM

Hey all

Just curious if there is any surface naval sims with a dynamic campaign ala SH3/4 around? None come to mind so I figured I would ask here. I am guessing no, but figured an ask would be worth it!

Thanks!

Sailor Steve · 03-26-14, 11:40 AM

As far as I know there is none. There was the old Great Naval Battles series and later Fighting Steel, but as I recall those were single-mission only. With those you were never a single ship, but the commander of a task-force of one sort or another. One of the problems is with the exception of the German raiders surface warships were almost never sent out alone. Atlantic convoy-raiding is fun, but most WW2 naval action was in the Pacific, and nobody sent single ships deep into enemy territory the way the subs were.

I too would love to see a good surface game, but it wouldn't be the same. Either you would command the group or be a single part of it, which might be fun but I think would get old after awhile.

Pisces · 03-26-14, 02:06 PM

The only one I can imagine is Destroyer Command. Which is basically the surface edition of Silent Hunter 2 focussed on destroyers. I understand that it doesn't have a dynamic campaign (I hardly played it myself), but is more like scripted missions in sequence.

Though I find that the SH3 and SH4 campaign is also still fairly static in structure. I guess it is dynamic in a sense as things do go different. But not really interactive. It's not like you can influence the outcome, or eradicate a fleet forever. What evolves is your own boat and crew. And perhaps some events based on time-period, but they are bound to happen whatever you do.

gord96 · 03-26-14, 04:16 PM

Thanks guys! I figured as much...

I found this mod and I think it might be what I am looking for!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=188786

Skybird · 03-26-14, 06:13 PM

Hasn't Matrix Games recently released a new Harpoon-style naval strategy sim?

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/...val.Operations

Mission-based, sorry.

gord96 · 03-27-14, 08:27 AM

Thanks skybird!

Turns out that mod is just what I was after. In command of the USS Sparrow, an armed tug boat sailing around the South China Seas sinking Japanese oil tankers.

03-26-14, 10:57 AM	#1
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Surface sim with campaign? Hey all Just curious if there is any surface naval sims with a dynamic campaign ala SH3/4 around? None come to mind so I figured I would ask here. I am guessing no, but figured an ask would be worth it! Thanks!

03-26-14, 11:40 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	As far as I know there is none. There was the old Great Naval Battles series and later Fighting Steel, but as I recall those were single-mission only. With those you were never a single ship, but the commander of a task-force of one sort or another. One of the problems is with the exception of the German raiders surface warships were almost never sent out alone. Atlantic convoy-raiding is fun, but most WW2 naval action was in the Pacific, and nobody sent single ships deep into enemy territory the way the subs were. I too would love to see a good surface game, but it wouldn't be the same. Either you would command the group or be a single part of it, which might be fun but I think would get old after awhile. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-26-14, 06:13 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,706 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Hasn't Matrix Games recently released a new Harpoon-style naval strategy sim? http://www.matrixgames.com/products/...val.Operations Mission-based, sorry. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-26-14, 02:06 PM	#3
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	The only one I can imagine is Destroyer Command. Which is basically the surface edition of Silent Hunter 2 focussed on destroyers. I understand that it doesn't have a dynamic campaign (I hardly played it myself), but is more like scripted missions in sequence. Though I find that the SH3 and SH4 campaign is also still fairly static in structure. I guess it is dynamic in a sense as things do go different. But not really interactive. It's not like you can influence the outcome, or eradicate a fleet forever. What evolves is your own boat and crew. And perhaps some events based on time-period, but they are bound to happen whatever you do.

03-26-14, 04:16 PM	#4
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys! I figured as much... I found this mod and I think it might be what I am looking for! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=188786

03-27-14, 08:27 AM	#6
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Thanks skybird! Turns out that mod is just what I was after. In command of the USS Sparrow, an armed tug boat sailing around the South China Seas sinking Japanese oil tankers.