The problem with Kids today.

Wolferz · 03-21-14, 10:14 PM

Too many kids are growing up over protected...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5001846.html

This article reminded me of my own childhood adventures, trials and tribulations. I'm still thankful that my parents weren't the over protective types who insist on structuring and watching everything a child does 24/7.
My brother and I used to venture far from home and do things that could be considered dangerous in this day and age. But we survived and I think we turned out better for the experiences.

Red October1984 · 03-22-14, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Too many kids are growing up over protected...

This article reminded me of my own childhood adventures, trials and tribulations. I'm still thankful that my parents weren't the over protective types who insist on structuring and watching everything a child does 24/7.
My brother and I used to venture far from home and do things that could be considered dangerous in this day and age. But we survived and I think we turned out better for the experiences.

There are many problems with kids today...and this one seems to find it's way into all of them.

Kids need to be taught common sense. When somebody else thinks for you for so long, you lose the skill to think for yourself.

Kids are being raised wrong because the 90's kids are becoming parents now and, let's face it, this new generation of parents sucks. I can see it in my own school and the kids that they produced.

The Senior class a few years back....let's use 2008's senior class. They were a completely different kind of person at age 7 than the 1st grade kids now.

Now, the kids are raised to believe everything is okay, everybody is a winner, you can do anything you want, and the world is a happy-go-lucky place. And if there ever is a problem, you can forget solving it yourself. Find a "trusted adult." If a kid throws a punch on the playground, the other kid is supposed to run away and get a "trusted adult"

Where will this trusted adult be in 30 years? There are very few adults I really completely trust. There's a lot I have faith in...but actually trust, few.

Kids need to get more common sense and fewer Japanese cartoons.

Rant over. It's a topic for which I have a bit of passion.

Jimbuna · 03-22-14, 05:37 AM

Never felt I've been overprotective but ever watchful and ready to guide and protect if need be.

My lad was travelling the world at the age of sixteen in a cadetship as a navl officer trainee and I look at him now, 25 years of age and studying for his Chief Officers ticket.

My daughter is almost 21 and in her final year at university so what the future holds for her I'm not yet sure.

Taking all things into consideration I don't think my wifes parenting skills have been bad at all but when out and about I often witness the results of poor parenting.

Armistead · 03-22-14, 07:48 AM

I agree, kids today seem about 5 years behind mentally and emotionally than my generation. We are creating an entitled generation that doesn't know what NO means, easily offended and lazy.

One of my peeves is all these suicides due to bullying. Not saying bullying is right, but it's part of a growth process to learn to stand for yourself.

The goal for a parent is to no longer be needed.

u crank · 03-22-14, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

The goal for a parent is to no longer be needed.

That is so true. As a child I witnessed a few sad moments. We didn't have grief counselors or a school psychiatrist. We had parents. I survived it. I guess todays parents aren't skilled enough. According to the experts.

Dread Knot · 03-22-14, 08:13 AM

I guess it's not surprising given the example the authorities set. Last year the Postal Service announced it was scrapping a line of stamps depicting children in various forms of play such as skipping rope, walking and jogging, dribbling a basketball, etc. The reason? It received “concerns” from the President’s Council on Fitness, Sports & Nutrition over apparently “unsafe” acts shown on three of the stamps: a cannonball dive into a pool, skateboarding without kneepads, and a headstand without a helmet .

So if we end up with a generation of soft, obese kids who only want to live in the cozy world of social media, we have ourselves to blame as we slowly eliminate any examples of life ever having been different.

On the other hand kids probably don't even know what a physical letter is anymore, not to mention a stamp.

krashkart · 03-22-14, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot

Last year the Postal Service announced it was scrapping a line of stamps depicting children in various forms of play such as skipping rope, walking and jogging, dribbling a basketball, etc. The reason? It received “concerns” from the President’s Council on Fitness, Sports & Nutrition over apparently “unsafe” acts shown on three of the stamps: a cannonball dive into a pool, skateboarding without kneepads, and a headstand without a helmet .

Good thing there wasn't a stamp depicting a kid climbing a tree without a safety harness. Heaven forbid somebody else try to do the same thing, end up falling out of the tree and learning on the way down to be more careful the next time they're up there.

ReallyDedPoet · 03-22-14, 10:36 AM

The fact is things are changing, whether we like it or not. The social media, technology obsessed kids of today will be running the show at some point. And when they do their children will be into something totally new. Look at the 60s, the world did not go to hell after that decade. Many of the hipsters became some of the leaders of subsequent decades.

Many of us here at SUBSIM spend quite a bit of time here, posting about various games and other stuff. And not just at the PC, I am posting from a tablet, and have done so via my phone. And I think none of us think anything of it, and why should we, it's a great community!! But our kids or grand kids, etc may look at us a little funny. So before we start criticizing them about being lazy, etc, we should take a look in the mirror.

Whenever I find myself being to critical of my kids or the next generation, I find myself questioning if I have lost touch. As we get older we get more and more set in our ways, which is not a bad thing. We all grow up at some point, we just need to be careful not to be open minded.

At the end of the day the next generation will figure it out : )

Tchocky · 03-22-14, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Socrates

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Kids these days have always been trouble

Sailor Steve · 03-22-14, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Kids these days have always been trouble

Wolferz · 03-22-14, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I agree, kids today seem about 5 years behind mentally and emotionally than my generation. We are creating an entitled generation that doesn't know what NO means, easily offended and lazy.

One of my peeves is all these suicides due to bullying. Not saying bullying is right, but it's part of a growth process to learn to stand for yourself.

The goal for a parent is to no longer be needed.

I have seen the same conclusion postulated in regard to kids being five years behind in their emotional development. This seems to be done on purpose in our government run assembly line schools. I feel that this is done for the purpose of producing docile lambs who will fear rocking the status quo boat.

"I never let my schooling get in the way of my education" ~Mark Twain

I didn't either. From the age of six on up I learned things about life on my own through good old trial and error. As my experience grew, I developed a sort of sixth sense regarding situational awareness and danger to my person.
I learned when to hold them, when to fold them and when to get the heck out of Dodge.

Many kids today lack fundamental problem solving skill because their parents smother them with total control.
One can not learn to succeed without experiencing a failure or two.
I learned how to handle bullies when I was eight. If they won't see reason when you walk away from their taunts, then you sucker punch them.

Problem solved.

I'm with you on that one Armistead.

Children need to be left to their own devices. Within reason of course. The parents need only keep a watchful eye and not constantly interfere. The kids are alright on their own.

vanjast · 03-22-14, 11:30 AM

I wouldn't say its the kids.. it's the parents that have gone 'moggy', and turned anything into a 'nanny-state'. Protection to a certain point, after which they must fend for themselves.

At least my kids listen to Jimi Hendrix, and other weird musos

Their music choice is quite cool.

ReallyDedPoet · 03-22-14, 11:47 AM

It's also the media and marketing ( mostly adults ) catering to the kids of today. In many cases they have become what has been sold to them. But as mentioned above, they'll figure it out.

Aktungbby · 03-22-14, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

Too many kids are growing up over protected...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5001846.html

This article reminded me of my own childhood adventures, trials and tribulations. I'm still thankful that my parents weren't the over protective types who insist on structuring and watching everything a child does 24/7.
My brother and I used to venture far from home and do things that could be considered dangerous in this day and age. But we survived and I think we turned out better for the experiences.

INDEED I was raised in an era of 'benign neglect'; "go play" was the command imperative from the parents. We did and we figured it out on our own...

kinda sorta!

gordonmull · 03-22-14, 10:42 PM

"Right, that's enough, get out and play!" I can still hear my mother's voice ringing in my ears. By heavens we'd be out and we'd stay out until the holler came in: "Gordon, Paul, DINNER!" Similar cries sounding out right down the street. School sports day we tried our best, the best won and were awarded. I didn't, I was ****e to mediocre at sports. The "everyone has to be a winner" mentality is slowly strangling this country.

Everyone has to get good grades from school, so they lower the bar. Everyone has to go to university, so they lower the bar. I speak from experience, having attended compulsory basic arithmetic classes as a mature student at the beginning of my science degree in 2001. IMHO if you don't have basic arithmetic, let alone decent maths skills, you shouldn't be let into a science course. We learnt those in primary school. But still they do.

In fact, most of my small class were mature students, and at one point we brought it to a member of staff's attention that the general feeling was that we weren't being challenged enough. He told us, to paraphrase him, that the course had to be tailored to the caliber of person that the schools were sending them.

To the unis it's all bums on seats and money, to the schools it's all about the league tables. To the children and young people they are failing, well, it's what they make of it when they can't get a job in a graduate saturated market or when in the skilled or non-skilled markets their seniors deride them for lack of basic skills.

The education system has a lot to answer for here, too.

03-21-14, 10:14 PM	#1
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	The problem with Kids today. Too many kids are growing up over protected... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5001846.html This article reminded me of my own childhood adventures, trials and tribulations. I'm still thankful that my parents weren't the over protective types who insist on structuring and watching everything a child does 24/7. My brother and I used to venture far from home and do things that could be considered dangerous in this day and age. But we survived and I think we turned out better for the experiences. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

03-22-14, 05:37 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Never felt I've been overprotective but ever watchful and ready to guide and protect if need be. My lad was travelling the world at the age of sixteen in a cadetship as a navl officer trainee and I look at him now, 25 years of age and studying for his Chief Officers ticket. My daughter is almost 21 and in her final year at university so what the future holds for her I'm not yet sure. Taking all things into consideration I don't think my wifes parenting skills have been bad at all but when out and about I often witness the results of poor parenting. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-22-14, 07:48 AM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I agree, kids today seem about 5 years behind mentally and emotionally than my generation. We are creating an entitled generation that doesn't know what NO means, easily offended and lazy. One of my peeves is all these suicides due to bullying. Not saying bullying is right, but it's part of a growth process to learn to stand for yourself. The goal for a parent is to no longer be needed. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

03-22-14, 08:13 AM	#6
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I guess it's not surprising given the example the authorities set. Last year the Postal Service announced it was scrapping a line of stamps depicting children in various forms of play such as skipping rope, walking and jogging, dribbling a basketball, etc. The reason? It received “concerns” from the President’s Council on Fitness, Sports & Nutrition over apparently “unsafe” acts shown on three of the stamps: a cannonball dive into a pool, skateboarding without kneepads, and a headstand without a helmet . So if we end up with a generation of soft, obese kids who only want to live in the cozy world of social media, we have ourselves to blame as we slowly eliminate any examples of life ever having been different. On the other hand kids probably don't even know what a physical letter is anymore, not to mention a stamp. Last edited by Dread Knot; 03-22-14 at 08:30 AM.

03-22-14, 10:36 AM	#8
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,884 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	The problem with Kids today. The fact is things are changing, whether we like it or not. The social media, technology obsessed kids of today will be running the show at some point. And when they do their children will be into something totally new. Look at the 60s, the world did not go to hell after that decade. Many of the hipsters became some of the leaders of subsequent decades. Many of us here at SUBSIM spend quite a bit of time here, posting about various games and other stuff. And not just at the PC, I am posting from a tablet, and have done so via my phone. And I think none of us think anything of it, and why should we, it's a great community!! But our kids or grand kids, etc may look at us a little funny. So before we start criticizing them about being lazy, etc, we should take a look in the mirror. Whenever I find myself being to critical of my kids or the next generation, I find myself questioning if I have lost touch. As we get older we get more and more set in our ways, which is not a bad thing. We all grow up at some point, we just need to be careful not to be open minded. At the end of the day the next generation will figure it out : ) __________________ Back in the Day Last edited by ReallyDedPoet; 03-22-14 at 10:50 AM.

03-22-14, 11:30 AM	#12
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,733 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	I wouldn't say its the kids.. it's the parents that have gone 'moggy', and turned anything into a 'nanny-state'. Protection to a certain point, after which they must fend for themselves. At least my kids listen to Jimi Hendrix, and other weird musos Their music choice is quite cool.

03-22-14, 11:47 AM	#13
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,884 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	The problem with Kids today. It's also the media and marketing ( mostly adults ) catering to the kids of today. In many cases they have become what has been sold to them. But as mentioned above, they'll figure it out. __________________ Back in the Day

03-22-14, 10:42 PM	#15
gordonmull Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 269 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	"Right, that's enough, get out and play!" I can still hear my mother's voice ringing in my ears. By heavens we'd be out and we'd stay out until the holler came in: "Gordon, Paul, DINNER!" Similar cries sounding out right down the street. School sports day we tried our best, the best won and were awarded. I didn't, I was ****e to mediocre at sports. The "everyone has to be a winner" mentality is slowly strangling this country. Everyone has to get good grades from school, so they lower the bar. Everyone has to go to university, so they lower the bar. I speak from experience, having attended compulsory basic arithmetic classes as a mature student at the beginning of my science degree in 2001. IMHO if you don't have basic arithmetic, let alone decent maths skills, you shouldn't be let into a science course. We learnt those in primary school. But still they do. In fact, most of my small class were mature students, and at one point we brought it to a member of staff's attention that the general feeling was that we weren't being challenged enough. He told us, to paraphrase him, that the course had to be tailored to the caliber of person that the schools were sending them. To the unis it's all bums on seats and money, to the schools it's all about the league tables. To the children and young people they are failing, well, it's what they make of it when they can't get a job in a graduate saturated market or when in the skilled or non-skilled markets their seniors deride them for lack of basic skills. The education system has a lot to answer for here, too.