Maps

Red Devil · 02-12-14, 11:37 AM

just done complete reinstall of basic stock, due to failure to allow fuel restrictions, and added RSRDC and tried to load FJB Navigation Maps (5.87 MB) but does not work - should I try loading manually into folders.

bandit484 · 02-12-14, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil

just done complete reinstall of basic stock, due to failure to allow fuel restrictions, and added RSRDC and tried to load FJB Navigation Maps (5.87 MB) but does not work - should I try loading manually into folders.

Load it into your jsgme mods folder then enable from jsgme.

Red Devil · 02-12-14, 02:55 PM

Did that, tried two different ones, no dice.

merc4ulfate · 02-12-14, 04:51 PM

Did you have anything in your roaming cache files or user data files regarding silent hunter 4 and if so did you delete them before your new install?

Read this about new installations and see if there was something you missed:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133290

Red Devil · 02-12-14, 11:25 PM

yes, deleted all including saves and then did a deep scan which removed remaining data for SH4, did install and then added patch, then went to enabler and added rsrdc (latest) and pacific sound mod, and then tried two versions of map mods of which both uploaded, then addeed narwhal mod, that works, and then created narwhal career, but when i left port maps are bog standaed

Map in right now are FJB Navigation maps

do I need to add TMO 2.5 to the uploaded mods too?

fred8615 · 02-13-14, 11:54 AM

Check the folder structure of the mod in your MODS folder. For instance, if you try the color map, you should have this:

..\MODS\FJB Color Navigation Map\Data

With two more folders inside Data, and folders inside those. An incorrect folder is the only reason I can think of why JSGME wouldn't work, other than a corrupted extraction.

merc4ulfate · 02-13-14, 12:45 PM

You do not have to use TMO unless the map mod is specifically made for it. Are you using the RSRD patch?? I would not think not using the patch would affect the map mods but it certainly will helping with RSRD.

Are you sure both of those map mods are necessary? Does one over write anything in the other and are they compatible with each other?

Red Devil · 02-13-14, 01:40 PM

not using both, but trying different ones, and none work. I do not have TMO loaded that was just a passing thought.

contents of FJB:

3 folders - brown, colour, two tone and nav pdf; in each of these folders there is a data folder containing - shaders, terrain and textures in these each have low and hi and tex folders

Pisces · 02-13-14, 02:33 PM

What does "does not work" mean? Do you not notice a difference in game(play) compared to before the enabling of the mods. Or does the game crash at some point?

This is an important distinction to isolate the probable cause.

[EDIT]Please write down exactly how this mod is named and placed (with it's immediate subfolders )in your MODS folder.

It should NOT be like:

SilentHunter4\MODS\FJB_Navigation_Maps\FJB Two Tone Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.)
SilentHunter4\MODS\FJB_Navigation_Maps\FJB Color Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.)
SilentHunter4\MODS\FJB_Navigation_Maps\FJB Brown Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.)

If you have the above, you will also find a file in this folderpath: SilentHunter4\FJB_Navigation_Maps\FJB Navigation Maps.pdf
This wil do no harm though.

You should have the 3 map-submods as seperate in the MODS folder for enabling to work correctly: (and nothing in between)

MODS\FJB Two Tone Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.)
MODS\FJB Color Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.)
MODS\FJB Brown Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.)

The pdf would then be located in the MODS folder, which would not be copied to the game folder. So you either put it in the SilentHunter4\docs folder manualy. Or add a docs folder to each submod, and place a copy of the pfd in each, or whichever you intend to use.

Red Devil · 02-13-14, 02:36 PM

I'm on about the maps not the mods. The map mod does not work, the map is exactly the same as in 'stock'.

I am thinking of taking all the mods out, and going back to stock, then put maps in (FJB Nav Maps) and see if any of the mods is obviously conflicting.

fred8615 · 02-13-14, 05:22 PM

There shouldn't be any conflict with another mod. I don't think TMO or RFB change the maps for instance. And if they did, they would only do it if you installed them after my mod.

If JSGME is installing other mods properly, then it shouldn't have any problem with this mod. Unless the extraction went wrong.

Red Devil · 02-13-14, 05:51 PM

Understood Fred, working on it. your mod is so good its GO TO go in.

Red Devil · 02-13-14, 06:16 PM

I took everything down to stock

added FJB's maps
added pacific sound mod
added new narwhal K v1.5

nothing, maps still stock

merc4ulfate · 02-13-14, 08:13 PM

Just curious ... those mods weren't double foldered were they?

If they were it would show as installed without doing a thing to the game.

Not: Hard drive: silent hunter\mods\this map mod\this map mod

Good:Hard drive: silent hunter\mods\this map mod

Just checking

Red Devil · 02-14-14, 05:50 AM

good point merc but they are held in JSGME 'mods' folder and I activate or deactivate directly from there. Would it be better if I add the folders/files for the maps directing into the software.

I have tried reinstall, stock, rsrdc - the map mod does not work in any, nor does it work on saved boats not brand new boats.

I double checked the JSGME mod folder its 'mod/ and then the mod folder' so thats as it should be

I download FJB maps again and extracted to JSGME. Folderrs showing are colour, brown and two tone, I chose colour and it istalled. I noew have RSRDC, Pacific sound mod and colour map folder loaded , does not change maps.

The mod has inserted because it tells me when I tried to add bornw folder. Could it be because I have an HD 24 inch monitor, using an HD lead??

02-12-14, 11:37 AM	#1
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Maps just done complete reinstall of basic stock, due to failure to allow fuel restrictions, and added RSRDC and tried to load FJB Navigation Maps (5.87 MB) but does not work - should I try loading manually into folders. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-12-14, 02:55 PM	#3
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Did that, tried two different ones, no dice. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-12-14, 04:51 PM	#4
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Did you have anything in your roaming cache files or user data files regarding silent hunter 4 and if so did you delete them before your new install? Read this about new installations and see if there was something you missed: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133290 __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

02-12-14, 11:25 PM	#5
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	yes, deleted all including saves and then did a deep scan which removed remaining data for SH4, did install and then added patch, then went to enabler and added rsrdc (latest) and pacific sound mod, and then tried two versions of map mods of which both uploaded, then addeed narwhal mod, that works, and then created narwhal career, but when i left port maps are bog standaed Map in right now are FJB Navigation maps do I need to add TMO 2.5 to the uploaded mods too? __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-13-14, 11:54 AM	#6
fred8615 Saint of the seas Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sorrento, Louisiana Posts: 1,320 Downloads: 265 Uploads: 127	Check the folder structure of the mod in your MODS folder. For instance, if you try the color map, you should have this: ..\MODS\FJB Color Navigation Map\Data With two more folders inside Data, and folders inside those. An incorrect folder is the only reason I can think of why JSGME wouldn't work, other than a corrupted extraction. __________________ Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone.

02-13-14, 12:45 PM	#7
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	You do not have to use TMO unless the map mod is specifically made for it. Are you using the RSRD patch?? I would not think not using the patch would affect the map mods but it certainly will helping with RSRD. Are you sure both of those map mods are necessary? Does one over write anything in the other and are they compatible with each other? __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

02-13-14, 01:40 PM	#8
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	not using both, but trying different ones, and none work. I do not have TMO loaded that was just a passing thought. contents of FJB: 3 folders - brown, colour, two tone and nav pdf; in each of these folders there is a data folder containing - shaders, terrain and textures in these each have low and hi and tex folders __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-13-14, 02:33 PM	#9
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	What does "does not work" mean? Do you not notice a difference in game(play) compared to before the enabling of the mods. Or does the game crash at some point? This is an important distinction to isolate the probable cause. [EDIT]Please write down exactly how this mod is named and placed (with it's immediate subfolders )in your MODS folder. It should NOT be like: SilentHunter4\MODS\FJB_Navigation_Maps\FJB Two Tone Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.) SilentHunter4\MODS\FJB_Navigation_Maps\FJB Color Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.) SilentHunter4\MODS\FJB_Navigation_Maps\FJB Brown Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.) If you have the above, you will also find a file in this folderpath: SilentHunter4\FJB_Navigation_Maps\FJB Navigation Maps.pdf This wil do no harm though. You should have the 3 map-submods as seperate in the MODS folder for enabling to work correctly: (and nothing in between) MODS\FJB Two Tone Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.) MODS\FJB Color Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.) MODS\FJB Brown Navigation Map\Data\ (etc.) The pdf would then be located in the MODS folder, which would not be copied to the game folder. So you either put it in the SilentHunter4\docs folder manualy. Or add a docs folder to each submod, and place a copy of the pfd in each, or whichever you intend to use. Last edited by Pisces; 02-13-14 at 02:49 PM.

02-13-14, 02:36 PM	#10
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	I'm on about the maps not the mods. The map mod does not work, the map is exactly the same as in 'stock'. I am thinking of taking all the mods out, and going back to stock, then put maps in (FJB Nav Maps) and see if any of the mods is obviously conflicting. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-13-14, 05:22 PM	#11
fred8615 Saint of the seas Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sorrento, Louisiana Posts: 1,320 Downloads: 265 Uploads: 127	There shouldn't be any conflict with another mod. I don't think TMO or RFB change the maps for instance. And if they did, they would only do it if you installed them after my mod. If JSGME is installing other mods properly, then it shouldn't have any problem with this mod. Unless the extraction went wrong. __________________ Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone.

02-13-14, 05:51 PM	#12
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Understood Fred, working on it. your mod is so good its GO TO go in. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-13-14, 06:16 PM	#13
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	I took everything down to stock added FJB's maps added pacific sound mod added new narwhal K v1.5 nothing, maps still stock __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-13-14, 08:13 PM	#14
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Just curious ... those mods weren't double foldered were they? If they were it would show as installed without doing a thing to the game. Not: Hard drive: silent hunter\mods\this map mod\this map mod Good:Hard drive: silent hunter\mods\this map mod Just checking __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

02-14-14, 05:50 AM	#15
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	good point merc but they are held in JSGME 'mods' folder and I activate or deactivate directly from there. Would it be better if I add the folders/files for the maps directing into the software. I have tried reinstall, stock, rsrdc - the map mod does not work in any, nor does it work on saved boats not brand new boats. I double checked the JSGME mod folder its 'mod/ and then the mod folder' so thats as it should be I download FJB maps again and extracted to JSGME. Folderrs showing are colour, brown and two tone, I chose colour and it istalled. I noew have RSRDC, Pacific sound mod and colour map folder loaded , does not change maps. The mod has inserted because it tells me when I tried to add bornw folder. Could it be because I have an HD 24 inch monitor, using an HD lead?? __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk Last edited by Red Devil; 02-14-14 at 08:00 AM.