Navy Seal Imposter

NeonSamurai · 01-04-14, 02:40 PM

I have to say watching the footage of him "in action" at his school was pretty funny, funny bad. I especially love the bit where he enters a room completely incorrectly, turns around 180, and shoots the cardboard baddy behind him, while vocalizing what he was doing as instructions (which in reality would be a good way to get shot repeatedly in the back). His knife fighting skill is equally horrid.

I sort of feel bad for the people he defrauded, but they had to have been rather stupid to believe half of what he was saying, particularly as what he was saying doesn't make any sense when put together. But throw greed into it and people throw sense to the wind, which is exactly how con-artists operate. If it seems too good to be true, it probably isn't.

<Edit> Since I guess no one reads the main page here, here is the link.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/exposing-na...ry?id=21403794

Admiral Halsey · 01-04-14, 02:41 PM

Link?

Jimbuna · 01-04-14, 02:43 PM

I doubt anyone will disagree or otherwise with you....unless you post a link

Moonlight · 01-04-14, 03:08 PM

This is the imposter. http://abcnews.go.com/US/exposing-na...ry?id=21403794

Jimbuna · 01-04-14, 03:17 PM

Walter Mitty more like

Stealhead · 01-04-14, 05:52 PM

I see another mistake on his fake DD214 line number 19.That line is the person rank and grade at the start of their most recent enlistment period if they ever re-enlisted it say E-1 which is not possible because there is no 34 year long enlistment period they they range from 4 years to 6 years currently.Some branches offer a two year term or used to but the 4 and 6 year terms have been standard since at least the early 90's.

Another mistake is in section 22 he has 0 years of foreign service listed oops also 0 years sea service for most people in the Navy especially a SEAL is literally impossible.An E-9 SEAL ought to have a few thousand sea miles at least.

A third mistake is his last duty station it says Panama well the US military has not had a permanent base in Panama since 1999 yet he was discharged in 2009 so he some managed to stay in a none existent command for 10 years.

I love DD214s I have refused to hire people more than once because they lied to me and then where too stupid to realize that I can simply read their DD214.Best not make a bogus claim about your military service cause I'll ask for your DD214 I find out if you are lying to me.

CaptainMattJ. · 01-04-14, 09:34 PM

He sounded like a fake right off the bat. "Serving from the jungles of vietnam to the caves of afghanistan"? Pablo escobar and osama bin laden? Really? He probably wouldve been better off being humble about it and not a showboat.

Red October1984 · 01-04-14, 11:05 PM

I really hate when people do this.

Anybody heard of the Stolen Valor law?

Stealhead · 01-05-14, 12:53 AM

I am just surprised that other Navy vets believed him at fist.If someone makes such claims and is trying to use these claims as part of a business deal I would bust of the fine toothed comb regardless.

Plenty of people are liars beyond the socially acceptable level white lie(how you feeling today you feel like crap but you say "just fine").

ETR3(SS) · 01-05-14, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Another mistake is in section 22 he has 0 years of foreign service listed oops also 0 years sea service for most people in the Navy especially a SEAL is literally impossible.An E-9 SEAL ought to have a few thousand sea miles at least.

You'd be surprised, I knew an AO1 (E-6) that never saw a flight deck.

Wolferz · 01-05-14, 09:18 AM

I would love to be a fly on the wall at the moment a real Navy Seal handed him a challenge coin.

The flying fur would be most entertaining.

Ducimus · 01-05-14, 09:33 AM

Moron's pretending to be seals seems soo.... passe. Seriously, and when these guys do lie, they lie BIG.

My last year active when i had to go back to base maintenance, I had a GS-11 in my shop who swore up and down he was a Seal in vietnam. Complete with wall mounted BS you can buy at any surplus store. We all knew he was full of ****, but he tried so hard to convince us. I KNEW he was full of it when i was instructing a younger Airman on how to do something, and I busted out a big honking Naval equivalent to an AF CDC that I had gotten from the SeaBee's while in a few training courses with those guys. "Mr Seal" see's this, and all of a sudden he was in the Seabee's for a year. /facepalm

Sailor Steve · 01-05-14, 09:37 AM

There have been so many of these clowns, and it's gotten so much publicity, that around fifteen years ago JAG had an episode about a guy running for congress who claimed to be Seal. Montel Williams did a good job as a real Seal who made it his task to expose the guy.

Platapus · 01-05-14, 11:59 AM

I would imagine that lying about being a SEAL is strategically a poor decision. SEALs know other SEALs. I would think there would be a real risk of some of the real SEALs, traveling to and .....discussing.... the issue with the SEAL imposter.

Red October1984 · 01-05-14, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I would imagine that lying about being a SEAL is strategically a poor decision. SEALs know other SEALs. I would think there would be a real risk of some of the real SEALs, traveling to and .....discussing.... the issue with the SEAL imposter.

I know that nobody else parties like a SEAL....

I'm sure nobody else but the secret ones "discuss" like a SEAL.

01-04-14, 02:40 PM	#1
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Navy Seal Imposter I have to say watching the footage of him "in action" at his school was pretty funny, funny bad. I especially love the bit where he enters a room completely incorrectly, turns around 180, and shoots the cardboard baddy behind him, while vocalizing what he was doing as instructions (which in reality would be a good way to get shot repeatedly in the back). His knife fighting skill is equally horrid. I sort of feel bad for the people he defrauded, but they had to have been rather stupid to believe half of what he was saying, particularly as what he was saying doesn't make any sense when put together. But throw greed into it and people throw sense to the wind, which is exactly how con-artists operate. If it seems too good to be true, it probably isn't. <Edit> Since I guess no one reads the main page here, here is the link. http://abcnews.go.com/US/exposing-na...ry?id=21403794 __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff Last edited by NeonSamurai; 01-04-14 at 03:15 PM.

01-04-14, 02:43 PM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I doubt anyone will disagree or otherwise with you....unless you post a link __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-04-14, 03:17 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Walter Mitty more like __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-04-14, 05:52 PM	#6
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I see another mistake on his fake DD214 line number 19.That line is the person rank and grade at the start of their most recent enlistment period if they ever re-enlisted it say E-1 which is not possible because there is no 34 year long enlistment period they they range from 4 years to 6 years currently.Some branches offer a two year term or used to but the 4 and 6 year terms have been standard since at least the early 90's. Another mistake is in section 22 he has 0 years of foreign service listed oops also 0 years sea service for most people in the Navy especially a SEAL is literally impossible.An E-9 SEAL ought to have a few thousand sea miles at least. A third mistake is his last duty station it says Panama well the US military has not had a permanent base in Panama since 1999 yet he was discharged in 2009 so he some managed to stay in a none existent command for 10 years. I love DD214s I have refused to hire people more than once because they lied to me and then where too stupid to realize that I can simply read their DD214.Best not make a bogus claim about your military service cause I'll ask for your DD214 I find out if you are lying to me. Last edited by Stealhead; 01-04-14 at 06:03 PM.

01-04-14, 09:34 PM	#7
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	He sounded like a fake right off the bat. "Serving from the jungles of vietnam to the caves of afghanistan"? Pablo escobar and osama bin laden? Really? He probably wouldve been better off being humble about it and not a showboat. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

01-04-14, 02:41 PM	#2
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 317 Uploads: 0	Link?

01-04-14, 03:08 PM	#4
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,519 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	This is the imposter. http://abcnews.go.com/US/exposing-na...ry?id=21403794

01-04-14, 11:05 PM	#8
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,243 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	I really hate when people do this. Anybody heard of the Stolen Valor law? __________________

01-05-14, 12:53 AM	#9
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I am just surprised that other Navy vets believed him at fist.If someone makes such claims and is trying to use these claims as part of a business deal I would bust of the fine toothed comb regardless. Plenty of people are liars beyond the socially acceptable level white lie(how you feeling today you feel like crap but you say "just fine").

01-05-14, 09:18 AM	#11
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	I would love to be a fly on the wall at the moment a real Navy Seal handed him a challenge coin. The flying fur would be most entertaining. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

01-05-14, 09:33 AM	#12
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Moron's pretending to be seals seems soo.... passe. Seriously, and when these guys do lie, they lie BIG. My last year active when i had to go back to base maintenance, I had a GS-11 in my shop who swore up and down he was a Seal in vietnam. Complete with wall mounted BS you can buy at any surplus store. We all knew he was full of ****, but he tried so hard to convince us. I KNEW he was full of it when i was instructing a younger Airman on how to do something, and I busted out a big honking Naval equivalent to an AF CDC that I had gotten from the SeaBee's while in a few training courses with those guys. "Mr Seal" see's this, and all of a sudden he was in the Seabee's for a year. /facepalm

01-05-14, 09:37 AM	#13
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	There have been so many of these clowns, and it's gotten so much publicity, that around fifteen years ago JAG had an episode about a guy running for congress who claimed to be Seal. Montel Williams did a good job as a real Seal who made it his task to expose the guy. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-05-14, 11:59 AM	#14
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I would imagine that lying about being a SEAL is strategically a poor decision. SEALs know other SEALs. I would think there would be a real risk of some of the real SEALs, traveling to and .....discussing.... the issue with the SEAL imposter. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.