no more pullups for female US marines

Skybird · 01-03-14, 07:38 AM

By a German report (LINK ) I learn that now has happened again exactly what nobody cna seriously want when allowing women into combat units and armed forces: that two standards for performance tests and fitness tests get established and the general standard gets lowered in order to still have gender equality.

Reports says that the US marine corps has stopped to demand female recruits physical tests and fitness tests that include pullups, since every second woman failed to achieve even just three pullups.

I'm all for same chances for females in the armed forces, almost all - though not all - branches. But only at this condition: that they pass the very same tests and qualification standards by which their male colleagues have to pass, since years and decades.

Because it is idiotic to assume that possible future enemies such female soldiers have to fight against will, confront them with voluntarily reduced combat strength to agree to more equalised chances between male hostile and female marine. A woman not en par with the physical performance abilities of her male colleagues, becomes a burden to her unit, and can even pout her whole unit at risk if her buddies have to take risks to compensate for her strength deficits. Thats starts with carrying stuff, and ends with many situation you can imagine when engaged under fire. As we would say in German, literally translating a phrase: a female soldiers nevertheless must be able to stand her man.

Political correctness continues with its corrosive endavours.

Not that the news is surprising, or shocking. It's the time we live in. The Chinese have this condemning wish for their enemies: "May you live in interesting times". Seen that way, we are extremely well-entertained.

Some days ago they had another report showing that internal research showed that rape of females in the Us armed forces is far more spread and happens far more often than officially admitted and shown by (cleaned) official numbers.

My policy: women are welcome - if they do not gain attention by showing deficits in physical and technical performance levels and if their inclusion in units and crews does not require more logistical reorganisation than can be justified, by all sane standards of reason, compared to the in principle: meaningless effect. If a soldier does the same job as well as his colleagues, it does not matter whether he/she is a boy or a girl. To have women in the armed forces for the mere purpose of being able to say that one has women in the armed forces, thus is absolutely pointless an argument. Gender means nothing here. Physical fitness and technical competence is what decides this for me.

01-03-14, 07:38 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,612 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	no more pullups for female US marines By a German report (LINK ) I learn that now has happened again exactly what nobody cna seriously want when allowing women into combat units and armed forces: that two standards for performance tests and fitness tests get established and the general standard gets lowered in order to still have gender equality. Reports says that the US marine corps has stopped to demand female recruits physical tests and fitness tests that include pullups, since every second woman failed to achieve even just three pullups. I'm all for same chances for females in the armed forces, almost all - though not all - branches. But only at this condition: that they pass the very same tests and qualification standards by which their male colleagues have to pass, since years and decades. Because it is idiotic to assume that possible future enemies such female soldiers have to fight against will, confront them with voluntarily reduced combat strength to agree to more equalised chances between male hostile and female marine. A woman not en par with the physical performance abilities of her male colleagues, becomes a burden to her unit, and can even pout her whole unit at risk if her buddies have to take risks to compensate for her strength deficits. Thats starts with carrying stuff, and ends with many situation you can imagine when engaged under fire. As we would say in German, literally translating a phrase: a female soldiers nevertheless must be able to stand her man. Political correctness continues with its corrosive endavours. Not that the news is surprising, or shocking. It's the time we live in. The Chinese have this condemning wish for their enemies: "May you live in interesting times". Seen that way, we are extremely well-entertained. Some days ago they had another report showing that internal research showed that rape of females in the Us armed forces is far more spread and happens far more often than officially admitted and shown by (cleaned) official numbers. My policy: women are welcome - if they do not gain attention by showing deficits in physical and technical performance levels and if their inclusion in units and crews does not require more logistical reorganisation than can be justified, by all sane standards of reason, compared to the in principle: meaningless effect. If a soldier does the same job as well as his colleagues, it does not matter whether he/she is a boy or a girl. To have women in the armed forces for the mere purpose of being able to say that one has women in the armed forces, thus is absolutely pointless an argument. Gender means nothing here. Physical fitness and technical competence is what decides this for me. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.