long range gunnery questions

anavel_gato2004 · 12-30-13, 11:55 PM

what file need to be edited to increase the Accuracy of a player control ship?

also what need to be edited to make it so a player can target and destroy a coastal artillery emplacements?

TorpX · 12-31-13, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by anavel_gato2004

what file need to be edited to increase the Accuracy of a player control ship?

also what need to be edited to make it so a player can target and destroy a coastal artillery emplacements?

I don't know the answer to your first question, but as to the second, coastal guns, searchlights, bunkers, etc., and related things cannot be destroyed. That is to say, they are not destructible in the way the game works.

Someone did figure out a way to emplace ship objects onto land locations so as to make destructible "buildings", but I think that was an involved undertaking, and I can't tell you how to do this.

merc4ulfate · 12-31-13, 10:57 AM

Yeah I think Traveller added Fuel Depots on land to be targeted by the deck guns.

TorpX · 12-31-13, 09:57 PM

Yes, but someone figured it out before Traveller, a few years ago. I wish I could remember who, so I could give him credit. I thought it was a clever idea.

Snarf · 01-09-14, 05:44 PM

I find that user control is the best method for long range gunnery. I've actually sunk a couple ships outside 10,000 yards. I don't think AI normally fires beyond 5000. In real life Tang fired on shore batteries off Truk as they were picking up downed aviators, from about 4000 yards. They were only really able to keep them ducking, as they were not able to clearly see the batteries. Read Clear the Bridge! by Richard O'Kane for the actual account.

merc4ulfate · 01-10-14, 01:17 PM

I never use the deck gun unless I am the one controlling it. I have a better hit percentage than my crew does. With the mods I'm running using the deck is very risky. I think the damage model for the user control boat is much more realistic. It wouldn't take much from a merchant deck gun to sink you.

I very rarely use it and when I do it is to ventilate a ship that just wont seem to sink.

It did save my arse one day however. I had come upon a convoy of six ships escorted by a sub chaser and a Momi patrol boat. I had hit two ships sinking one very quickly but got a good depth charge attack from the two escorts.

I was taking on water and I really feared that if I had stayed submerged that I would have sunk. I put some men in place at the deck gun slots and blew ballast all ahead flank.

Both escorts were within 2000 yards when I surfaced and I opened up quickly on the closest one scoring three hits and a large explosion on the sub chaser. I then turned and opened up on the Momi. The sub chaser while not sunk steer a course away from me while the Momi and I traded shots.

I was surprised to get enough hits that she finally slowed down and I managed to get away on the surface. The DC crew were hard at work but at least we were afloat. I kept them on radar and as the sun was setting noticed the merchant I had hit earlier had come to a stop and so had the Momi. I used the radar and TDC and at 7,000 yards I began to fire on the Momi. It tried to fire back but her rounds were mostly hitting the water after traveling 3000 yards. She sank after four more hits. I then turned to the merchant and finished her off with the deck gun.

The sub chaser reentered the area and would fire at me but never got closer than 8000 yards before veering away. We traded fire until I ran out of ammunition for the deck gun and then I left the area. I still couldn't risk running submerged until we got the flooding under control.

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12-31-13, 10:57 AM	#3
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Yeah I think Traveller added Fuel Depots on land to be targeted by the deck guns. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

01-09-14, 05:44 PM	#5
Snarf Officer Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: USS Tuna out of Pearl Harbor Posts: 243 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 10	I find that user control is the best method for long range gunnery. I've actually sunk a couple ships outside 10,000 yards. I don't think AI normally fires beyond 5000. In real life Tang fired on shore batteries off Truk as they were picking up downed aviators, from about 4000 yards. They were only really able to keep them ducking, as they were not able to clearly see the batteries. Read Clear the Bridge! by Richard O'Kane for the actual account. __________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" -David Farragut (probably repeated by many WWII sub skippers)

01-10-14, 01:17 PM	#6
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	I never use the deck gun unless I am the one controlling it. I have a better hit percentage than my crew does. With the mods I'm running using the deck is very risky. I think the damage model for the user control boat is much more realistic. It wouldn't take much from a merchant deck gun to sink you. I very rarely use it and when I do it is to ventilate a ship that just wont seem to sink. It did save my arse one day however. I had come upon a convoy of six ships escorted by a sub chaser and a Momi patrol boat. I had hit two ships sinking one very quickly but got a good depth charge attack from the two escorts. I was taking on water and I really feared that if I had stayed submerged that I would have sunk. I put some men in place at the deck gun slots and blew ballast all ahead flank. Both escorts were within 2000 yards when I surfaced and I opened up quickly on the closest one scoring three hits and a large explosion on the sub chaser. I then turned and opened up on the Momi. The sub chaser while not sunk steer a course away from me while the Momi and I traded shots. I was surprised to get enough hits that she finally slowed down and I managed to get away on the surface. The DC crew were hard at work but at least we were afloat. I kept them on radar and as the sun was setting noticed the merchant I had hit earlier had come to a stop and so had the Momi. I used the radar and TDC and at 7,000 yards I began to fire on the Momi. It tried to fire back but her rounds were mostly hitting the water after traveling 3000 yards. She sank after four more hits. I then turned to the merchant and finished her off with the deck gun. The sub chaser reentered the area and would fire at me but never got closer than 8000 yards before veering away. We traded fire until I ran out of ammunition for the deck gun and then I left the area. I still couldn't risk running submerged until we got the flooding under control. ====================== Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157 1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5 1_TMO_25_small_patch RSRDC_TMO_V502 RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1 Traveller Mod v2.6 TMO #1 Real Environment mod install Traveller Mod 2.6 Patch 1 - ISE v3 Patch #4 Warships retextured Traveller Mod 2.6 No Midway Transfer Traveller Mod 2.6 No DC Camera Shake Traveller Mod 2.6 Larger Search Patterns Traveller Mod 2.6 Harder Enemy AI Escorts Traveller Mod 2.6 Automatic Ship ID Traveller Alternate Main Loading Screens Convoy Routes TMO+RSRD tambor198's TMO+RSRDC missions pack __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

12-30-13, 11:55 PM	#1
anavel_gato2004 Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 10 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	long range gunnery questions what file need to be edited to increase the Accuracy of a player control ship? also what need to be edited to make it so a player can target and destroy a coastal artillery emplacements?

12-31-13, 09:57 PM	#4
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Yes, but someone figured it out before Traveller, a few years ago. I wish I could remember who, so I could give him credit. I thought it was a clever idea.