Tyranny from the IRS

Bubblehead1980 · 11-05-13, 02:25 PM

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/11/...-in-taxes.html

Yes, the story is in right wing sites but just read, it's happening and not uncommon.I am waiting for the day I get audited because of my outspoken opposition to the fed and the 16th amendment.Sure it will happen

Oberon · 11-05-13, 02:27 PM

I'm thinking four to five pages for this one.

vienna · 11-05-13, 02:37 PM

Not quite so innocent and rather well known tax protesters:

http://tpgurus.wikidot.com/peter-hendrickson

http://www.justice.gov/tax/txdv07320.htm

Gee, and all I had to do was use that new-fangled (and probably leftist/socialist) thingamabob called "Google". I had to do it; all the cool kids are "Googling"...

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Bubblehead1980 · 11-05-13, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vienna

Not quite so innocent and rather well known tax protesters:

http://tpgurus.wikidot.com/peter-hendrickson

http://www.justice.gov/tax/txdv07320.htm

Gee, and all I had to do was use that new-fangled (and probably leftist/socialist) thingamabob called "Google". I had to do it; all the cool kids are "Googling"...

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Who cares if they are tax protesters? Government does not have the right to do what they are doing, especially to her in this case. I am aware they are, notice I said yes I know it's a right wing site.I looked them up, so nice try, play again.

See you, it is personal for you, oh so witty one.

u crank · 11-05-13, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I am waiting for the day I get audited because of my outspoken opposition to the fed and the 16th amendment.Sure it will happen

How do you sleep at night?

Bubblehead1980 · 11-05-13, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

How do you sleep at night?

Not a serious question I know but I sleep quite well, thanks.

vienna · 11-05-13, 02:51 PM

Well, it's gone from unfounded assertion to defensive insults in less than 5 posts. That may be a record for Bubbles...

The people in question have brought down this misery on themselves. By virtue of their basically turning the "plight" into a business (selling books, etc), they are no better than the 'snake oil' salesmen who pitch get rich quick scheme in infomercials on late night TV. They seek to profit from being "martyrs". The lowest of the low...

If you really looked them up, and, given your self-purported legal acumen and depth of knowledge, you would have found they goaded the government into action; the IRS did not spontaneously go knocking on their door. If you jaywalk in front of a cop, expect to get a ticket...

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Bubblehead1980 · 11-05-13, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vienna

Well, it's gone from unfounded assertion to defensive insults in less than 5 posts. That may be a record for Bubbles...

The people in question have brought down this misery on themselves. By virtue of their basically turning the "plight" into a business (selling books, etc), they are no better than the 'snake oil' salesmen who pitch get rich quick scheme in infomercials on late night TV. They seek to profit from being "martyrs". The lowest of the low...

If you really looked them up, and, given your self-purported legal acumen and depth of knowledge, you would have found they goaded the government into action; the IRS did not spontaneously go knocking on their door. If you jaywalk in front of a cop, expect to get a ticket...

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NO, you started the insults with your "witty sarcasm" . They brought this on themselves? Man you are just a tool for the government eh? They are tax protesters, so what? They see something is wrong and stand up to it and so what if they write books or whatever, this fight requires money and writing a book etc is a way to spread the message.The government is picking on them because of their views, especially the wife.She is refusing to sign a form because is saying it's not true, they are trying to force her, she is standing strong and the government hates it.The Judge even offered a reasonable compromise but the tyrannical IRS said no.Fact is, they want her in prison because she dares to stand up. Sad part is, people, myself included at this point in my life, do not have the guts to do what these people are doing.Although my fight may begin when I refuse to purchase health insurance, especially via the government's exchanges until I can really afford it. We shall see what happens, but wake up, stop being part of the problem.

11-05-13, 03:10 PM

If you 'protest' by breaking laws, you can expect to be prosecuted for breaking laws. Not that 'protester' is necessarily the word I'd use to describe someone who resorts to firebombing...

Bubblehead1980 · 11-05-13, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest

If you 'protest' by breaking laws, you can expect to be prosecuted for breaking laws. Not that 'protester' is necessarily the word I'd use to describe someone who resorts to firebombing...

An unjust law is no law at all.Everything aside, they are focusing on his wife not being reasonable because they want her in prison, to make a point, to show their power.This is tyranny, plain and simple.

vienna · 11-05-13, 03:24 PM

The real problem is people not knowing which fights to pick. If you defend a charlatan, you are not only perpetuating their fraud, you are damaging the very argument you wish to make. There are a great many other persons who are truly being persecuted by various government entities, but, unless some politacally or personal-gain motivated individual or group, say, like the Limbaughs and Sharptons of the world, rush to their "defense", no one ever really raise a hand to help them, unless it's something like the ACLU or other "liberal" group...

When I did my Google search, I just picked two out of the top five hits. I did skim over the others, but I felt those two were a good example of my point. They are not being persecuted because of their "outspoken opposition"; they plain and simple violated the law. As a "future barrister", you should understand the distinction. If you don't like the law change it or change those who make the law...

Additional problems arise from those who make broad, sweeping assertions without proper foundation, reasoning, or researched knowledge...

By the way, thank you for noting my wit. Jealous, much? I will see if there is a "witless protection" program avilable for you...

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Jimbuna · 11-05-13, 03:26 PM

I was always under the impression that a law, whether thought to be good or bad by sections of the community was a law, provided it was passed into being by the relevant authority.

11-05-13, 03:31 PM

Is this thread going to turn into this?

Jimbuna · 11-05-13, 03:34 PM

Nope.

vienna · 11-05-13, 03:34 PM

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Is this thread going to turn into this?

Why are you using future tense?...

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11-05-13, 02:25 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,100 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Tyranny from the IRS http://www.activistpost.com/2013/11/...-in-taxes.html Yes, the story is in right wing sites but just read, it's happening and not uncommon.I am waiting for the day I get audited because of my outspoken opposition to the fed and the 16th amendment.Sure it will happen

11-05-13, 02:37 PM	#3
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Not quite so innocent and rather well known tax protesters: http://tpgurus.wikidot.com/peter-hendrickson http://www.justice.gov/tax/txdv07320.htm Gee, and all I had to do was use that new-fangled (and probably leftist/socialist) thingamabob called "Google". I had to do it; all the cool kids are "Googling"... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

11-05-13, 02:51 PM	#7
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well, it's gone from unfounded assertion to defensive insults in less than 5 posts. That may be a record for Bubbles... The people in question have brought down this misery on themselves. By virtue of their basically turning the "plight" into a business (selling books, etc), they are no better than the 'snake oil' salesmen who pitch get rich quick scheme in infomercials on late night TV. They seek to profit from being "martyrs". The lowest of the low... If you really looked them up, and, given your self-purported legal acumen and depth of knowledge, you would have found they goaded the government into action; the IRS did not spontaneously go knocking on their door. If you jaywalk in front of a cop, expect to get a ticket... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

11-05-13, 03:24 PM	#11
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The real problem is people not knowing which fights to pick. If you defend a charlatan, you are not only perpetuating their fraud, you are damaging the very argument you wish to make. There are a great many other persons who are truly being persecuted by various government entities, but, unless some politacally or personal-gain motivated individual or group, say, like the Limbaughs and Sharptons of the world, rush to their "defense", no one ever really raise a hand to help them, unless it's something like the ACLU or other "liberal" group... When I did my Google search, I just picked two out of the top five hits. I did skim over the others, but I felt those two were a good example of my point. They are not being persecuted because of their "outspoken opposition"; they plain and simple violated the law. As a "future barrister", you should understand the distinction. If you don't like the law change it or change those who make the law... Additional problems arise from those who make broad, sweeping assertions without proper foundation, reasoning, or researched knowledge... By the way, thank you for noting my wit. Jealous, much? I will see if there is a "witless protection" program avilable for you... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

11-05-13, 03:26 PM	#12
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I was always under the impression that a law, whether thought to be good or bad by sections of the community was a law, provided it was passed into being by the relevant authority. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-05-13, 02:27 PM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I'm thinking four to five pages for this one.

11-05-13, 03:10 PM	#9
AndyJWest Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If you 'protest' by breaking laws, you can expect to be prosecuted for breaking laws. Not that 'protester' is necessarily the word I'd use to describe someone who resorts to firebombing...

11-05-13, 03:31 PM	#13
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Is this thread going to turn into this?

11-05-13, 03:34 PM	#14
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Nope. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!