SH3 question

Crash1952 · 08-19-13, 09:25 AM

In years gone by I've owned Aces of the Deep (Great game!) and I believe it was the original Silent Hunter (US sub in the Pacfic). I just bought Silent Hunter 3 from Steam for $9.99. Probably would have been better off buying a disk, but I could download and play right away with Steam.
My question is this. I hit times where the time compression will not go higher than 4. Typically I crash dive after air attack, get to 50 meters, warning sub silhouette will be green, no sounds or explosions, but can't compress above 4. Seems that sometimes if I change depth, i can increase compression, but not always.
If I'm in a combat situation with a destroyer I can still compress up to 16 or 32. What gives??

Any help would be appreciatted!!!

Ligne Maginot · 08-19-13, 09:50 AM

When you can not overcome a TC of 4, submerged at 50m, is because you are near the bottom. Try this click the navigator and using the Atlas Echolot, the navigator will report the depth under keel. If this is small you can not increase the TC at least you upload a little (something similar happens when navigating near land).

Best regards.

Pisces · 08-19-13, 11:53 AM

Yup, must be land-proximity limited. To adjust, edit the landproximity line under [Timecompression] in the file: \SH3gamefolder\Data\Cfg\main.cfg.

Or better yet, get SH3 Commander to adjust it and get loads more options as a bonus.

Crash1952 · 08-19-13, 05:09 PM

OK, Thanks! I didn't consider that I might be near the bottom. Just asumed the water was deeper. Thanks again!

BigWalleye · 08-19-13, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash1952

I just bought Silent Hunter 3 from Steam for $9.99. Probably would have been better off buying a disk, but I could download and play right away with Steam.

You could buy a download from Amazon, without having to accept the Steam DRM and it's accompanying limitations. If you are looking for instant grats (and aren't we all?

), there are always better alternatives than Steam. And Amazon, if you buy through the link at the top of this page, will make a (small) cash contribution to SubSim. Since Amazon will sell you their download for $9.99, that contrib will cost you nothing! Miles ahead!

Crash1952 · 08-20-13, 06:49 AM

Quote:

You could buy a download from Amazon, without having to accept the Steam DRM and it's accompanying limitations. If you are looking for instant grats (and aren't we all?

), there are always better alternatives than Steam. And Amazon, if you buy through the link at the top of this page, will make a (small) cash contribution to SubSim. Since Amazon will sell you their download for $9.99, that contrib will cost you nothing! Miles ahead!

Am I correct in believeing that the Amazon download would effectivly be the same as having a cd without the dreaded security files I've read about?

BigWalleye · 08-20-13, 07:11 AM

Yes, although current versions of the DVD, which contain SH3 v1.4, do not have the dreaded security files (aka Starforce) either. I don't know when Ubi removed Starforce, but the current version doesn't have it. But sometimes it is hard to know what version you are buying, especially when ordering on-line.

Crash1952 · 08-20-13, 07:27 AM

Thanks, BigWalleye!
Another question. While playing a bit this am before heading out to work I had a few odd reports. I was crusing on surface, west of Scapa Flow, daylight, clear weather, time compression 512, warning silhouette green. All has been quiet, skies and ocean clear. Suddenly I get the report "we've been spotted", silhouette blinks red for a second and back to green. No reports of ship or plane spotted, no attacks on my sub, nothing else. First couple times I dropped to real time and searched sky and ocean, nothing. Other times (maybe 4 or 5 total) I ignored it and sailed on with nothing happening.

Am I missing something? I don't recall that happening before. I am on my 6th patrol I believe. Running 57% realism.

Also, in my game, on the map, reported contacts are in color. Blue seems to be friendly ships, Green I think is neutral and red are hostile. Is this normal due to my realism settings? I've noticed others on here asking about identifying target ships.

Jimbuna · 08-20-13, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash1952

Am I correct in believeing that the Amazon download would effectivly be the same as having a cd without the dreaded security files I've read about?

Click on the Amazon link at top right (not my link or SubSim won't receive a small commission at no extra cost to you) and type in 'Silent Hunter 3 on pc' and you should see what is in the link below...currently less than $10

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...+3%2Caps%2C214

BigWalleye · 08-20-13, 08:45 AM

AFAIK, stock game contact colors show IFF. Some mods change this - GWX and NYGM do. Don't know if realism settings can change it. I've never played stock.

I don't use the stealthmeter, so I've never seen what you describe. I'd guess that someone is catching a glimpse of you through the mist, then losing the contact as they move out of range. At TC512, you don't ever notice them. If enemy locks on and starts to approach you, hopefully your lookouts will spot him, report, and drop you back to TC1 in time to react. You can set maximum TC for various circumstances at Data/Cfg/Main.cfg or with SH3 Commander. I strongly recommend using SH3 Commander, even with stock SH3. It's not a mod, but a front-end program which launches SH3. It has a lot of nice features which add to game immersion.

blackswan40 · 08-20-13, 09:09 AM

Ahoy Crash1952 pm me your home Address & ill send you a brand new unopened copy of sh3 no DRM & patched to 1.4 being a senior member of the steel sharks group some of our members have had problems getting hold SH3 on disc but in Limey ville England you can still get them
i live in mytholmroyd west yorkshire should take a week to get to ya
just pm me your address salute

Regards Blackswan40

08-19-13, 09:25 AM	#1
Crash1952 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH3 question In years gone by I've owned Aces of the Deep (Great game!) and I believe it was the original Silent Hunter (US sub in the Pacfic). I just bought Silent Hunter 3 from Steam for $9.99. Probably would have been better off buying a disk, but I could download and play right away with Steam. My question is this. I hit times where the time compression will not go higher than 4. Typically I crash dive after air attack, get to 50 meters, warning sub silhouette will be green, no sounds or explosions, but can't compress above 4. Seems that sometimes if I change depth, i can increase compression, but not always. If I'm in a combat situation with a destroyer I can still compress up to 16 or 32. What gives?? Any help would be appreciatted!!!

08-19-13, 09:50 AM	#2
Ligne Maginot Gunner Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 94 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 0	When you can not overcome a TC of 4, submerged at 50m, is because you are near the bottom. Try this click the navigator and using the Atlas Echolot, the navigator will report the depth under keel. If this is small you can not increase the TC at least you upload a little (something similar happens when navigating near land). Best regards. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War V2.5 – Stand Alone Version NYGM3_New NYGM3_6D Supplement to V16B1 (JSGME) Stiebler4B_Addon_for_V16B1 Hitman Optics NYGM 3.6 (Fixed)

08-20-13, 07:27 AM	#8
Crash1952 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks, BigWalleye! Another question. While playing a bit this am before heading out to work I had a few odd reports. I was crusing on surface, west of Scapa Flow, daylight, clear weather, time compression 512, warning silhouette green. All has been quiet, skies and ocean clear. Suddenly I get the report "we've been spotted", silhouette blinks red for a second and back to green. No reports of ship or plane spotted, no attacks on my sub, nothing else. First couple times I dropped to real time and searched sky and ocean, nothing. Other times (maybe 4 or 5 total) I ignored it and sailed on with nothing happening. Am I missing something? I don't recall that happening before. I am on my 6th patrol I believe. Running 57% realism. Also, in my game, on the map, reported contacts are in color. Blue seems to be friendly ships, Green I think is neutral and red are hostile. Is this normal due to my realism settings? I've noticed others on here asking about identifying target ships. Last edited by Crash1952; 08-20-13 at 07:38 AM.

08-20-13, 09:09 AM	#11
blackswan40 GWX - KC Crash Test Dummy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: IN THE STEEL SHARKS VIRTUAL OCEAN Posts: 2,782 Downloads: 603 Uploads: 31	SH3 free of charge Ahoy Crash1952 pm me your home Address & ill send you a brand new unopened copy of sh3 no DRM & patched to 1.4 being a senior member of the steel sharks group some of our members have had problems getting hold SH3 on disc but in Limey ville England you can still get them i live in mytholmroyd west yorkshire should take a week to get to ya just pm me your address salute Regards Blackswan40 __________________ Someone Had to Make the Tea

08-19-13, 11:53 AM	#3
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Yup, must be land-proximity limited. To adjust, edit the landproximity line under [Timecompression] in the file: \SH3gamefolder\Data\Cfg\main.cfg. Or better yet, get SH3 Commander to adjust it and get loads more options as a bonus.

08-19-13, 05:09 PM	#4
Crash1952 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	OK, Thanks! I didn't consider that I might be near the bottom. Just asumed the water was deeper. Thanks again!

08-20-13, 07:11 AM	#7
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Yes, although current versions of the DVD, which contain SH3 v1.4, do not have the dreaded security files (aka Starforce) either. I don't know when Ubi removed Starforce, but the current version doesn't have it. But sometimes it is hard to know what version you are buying, especially when ordering on-line.

08-20-13, 08:45 AM	#10
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	AFAIK, stock game contact colors show IFF. Some mods change this - GWX and NYGM do. Don't know if realism settings can change it. I've never played stock. I don't use the stealthmeter, so I've never seen what you describe. I'd guess that someone is catching a glimpse of you through the mist, then losing the contact as they move out of range. At TC512, you don't ever notice them. If enemy locks on and starts to approach you, hopefully your lookouts will spot him, report, and drop you back to TC1 in time to react. You can set maximum TC for various circumstances at Data/Cfg/Main.cfg or with SH3 Commander. I strongly recommend using SH3 Commander, even with stock SH3. It's not a mod, but a front-end program which launches SH3. It has a lot of nice features which add to game immersion.