easier ai for tmo 2.5

andycts · 08-16-13, 04:32 PM

Hi guys

Really enjoying my transition from SH3 to SH4. it sure is a challenge.I did have some success today in avoiding being detected by a destroyer(maybe i'm getting better or just lucky)but i will ask this question anyway-are any of you guys using"easier AI for TMO 2.5"?The jap destroyer skippers seem to be superhuman in TMO so i'm thinking of using this mod.Does it make the game too easy or is it still reasonably difficult?Am i better off doing without it and learning how to cope with the AI?

good hunting to you all!

c13Garrison · 08-16-13, 05:00 PM

Yes Andy, I run Easier Ai. The way it was explained to me its actually more realistic. In the standard escort AI the subs will listen one second and then ping the next, giving them almost omnipotent abilities. This mod resets the AI so that they don't ping unless they hear something, which is more realistic.

And I agree the stock AI is rather vicious. However, I'm going to start a new thread which is somewhat related...

Simmy · 08-16-13, 05:03 PM

I've used it. It does make it a bit easier, but TMO is not that hard, it just takes getting use to.
Don't try to take on any DD's or convoys until you have mastered the art of attacking single ships.
Once you can do that without much trouble try a convoy. Attack from the side 2,000 yards or more. Once you nail a couple of those, hell, attack Japan.

Armistead · 08-16-13, 10:48 PM

Learn the AI and how it responds, that way you won't learn bad habits.

In time you'll think TMO is too easy and start using tweaks and other mods to make the game even more difficult.

Stock is bugged and you can easily defeat the escorts, even take them on on the surface and always win.

andycts · 08-17-13, 12:58 AM

Thanks guys,after reading the advice here and in the thread by c13Garrison "ASW quality"i'm going to persevere without the easier AI mod.Although i don't think i will be wanting to make it more difficult for quite some time lol

good hunting

Armistead · 08-17-13, 02:39 AM

They're numerous threads on evading and proper attack methods, try using search feature for both.

andycts · 08-17-13, 05:04 AM

Cheers Armistead,will check this out later,after i''v been down the local pub for a couple of beers.Looks like i am going to have quite a bit of reading to get through.

good hunting

08-16-13, 04:32 PM	#1
andycts Seaman Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: South Yorkshire,UK Posts: 32 Downloads: 232 Uploads: 0	easier ai for tmo 2.5 Hi guys Really enjoying my transition from SH3 to SH4. it sure is a challenge.I did have some success today in avoiding being detected by a destroyer(maybe i'm getting better or just lucky)but i will ask this question anyway-are any of you guys using"easier AI for TMO 2.5"?The jap destroyer skippers seem to be superhuman in TMO so i'm thinking of using this mod.Does it make the game too easy or is it still reasonably difficult?Am i better off doing without it and learning how to cope with the AI? good hunting to you all! __________________ TMO 2.5 OTC for TMO 2.5 OTC realistic scopes ISE v3 TMO&RFB LST TMO v2 TDW ship plane fire damage Websters real lifeboat fix TMO different smoke

08-16-13, 10:48 PM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Learn the AI and how it responds, that way you won't learn bad habits. In time you'll think TMO is too easy and start using tweaks and other mods to make the game even more difficult. Stock is bugged and you can easily defeat the escorts, even take them on on the surface and always win. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

08-17-13, 12:58 AM	#5
andycts Seaman Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: South Yorkshire,UK Posts: 32 Downloads: 232 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys,after reading the advice here and in the thread by c13Garrison "ASW quality"i'm going to persevere without the easier AI mod.Although i don't think i will be wanting to make it more difficult for quite some time lol good hunting __________________ TMO 2.5 OTC for TMO 2.5 OTC realistic scopes ISE v3 TMO&RFB LST TMO v2 TDW ship plane fire damage Websters real lifeboat fix TMO different smoke

08-17-13, 02:39 AM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	They're numerous threads on evading and proper attack methods, try using search feature for both. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

08-17-13, 05:04 AM	#7
andycts Seaman Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: South Yorkshire,UK Posts: 32 Downloads: 232 Uploads: 0	Cheers Armistead,will check this out later,after i''v been down the local pub for a couple of beers.Looks like i am going to have quite a bit of reading to get through. good hunting __________________ TMO 2.5 OTC for TMO 2.5 OTC realistic scopes ISE v3 TMO&RFB LST TMO v2 TDW ship plane fire damage Websters real lifeboat fix TMO different smoke

08-16-13, 05:00 PM	#2
c13Garrison Ensign Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Chicago-ish, USA Posts: 223 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Yes Andy, I run Easier Ai. The way it was explained to me its actually more realistic. In the standard escort AI the subs will listen one second and then ping the next, giving them almost omnipotent abilities. This mod resets the AI so that they don't ping unless they hear something, which is more realistic. And I agree the stock AI is rather vicious. However, I'm going to start a new thread which is somewhat related...

08-16-13, 05:03 PM	#3
Simmy Planesman Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 180 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	I've used it. It does make it a bit easier, but TMO is not that hard, it just takes getting use to. Don't try to take on any DD's or convoys until you have mastered the art of attacking single ships. Once you can do that without much trouble try a convoy. Attack from the side 2,000 yards or more. Once you nail a couple of those, hell, attack Japan.