Lars Heedegard again victim of assassination attempt

[Skybird]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21341878

I'm sure there will be a global outcry soon.

[mapuc]

It have been on the danish news all day long. And every politician that have a FB-account have postet on their wall, how awful this is.

Later Lars Hedegard came with this statement

"This is not something that came out of the thin air. The way most of our parties have led this country, will make the situation ultimately untenable for Denmark."

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

Glad to know the attack failed

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

It have been on the danish news all day long. And every politician that have a FB-account have postet on their wall, how awful this is.

Later Lars Hedegard came with this statement

"This is not something that came out of the thin air. The way most of our parties have led this country, will make the situation ultimately untenable for Denmark."

Markus

You mean he does not get what he deserves? After all, he has been fined by a Danish court because he said that in Islam women are second grade humans only and that before the court their testimony only is of lesser value and that they often fall victim to family rape by male clan members (an the attackers not beign charged).

Meanwhile, in saudi arabia a cleric has launched a debate about the veil for two year old girls. Because he wants to protect them form horny males. Strange males, these Arab males, if they desire 2 year old girls for bed company, and cannot control their perverted sexual drives like it is demanded from any male by Western laws.

Hm, have I just offended Arab males - or has that cleric offended Arab males?

And while we have in Germany a big debate about a "sexist"politician who complimented a female journalist about how well she would fill a Dirndl, and America sees the replacement of sexually discriminating terms like "fireman" and "freshman" with "firefighter" and "first-year-student", and Britain saw the replacement of chauvinist "serviceman" with "serviceperson" and "craftsman" with "craftsperson", and while Germans are obsessed with politically correctly talking about "Bürgerinnen und Bürger" and "Wählerinnen und Wähler" und "Steuerzahlerinnen und Steuerzahler" and the EU is pushing for stopping the diswcm rination of women by calling them mothers and ionstead wants people to talk about parent one and parents two, and gender-engineers deny differences between boys and girls and men and women and try to erase the obvious evidences shpowing their hilarious claim to be wrong - girls get imported by the thousands per year from Turkey to Germany to get forced into enforced marriages, and we do not adress this kind of sexism; and ever year many women and girls flee from their Muslim families that enrich our culture so much becasue they want to live by equal rights and in freedom and get threatened by their fathers, husbands and brothers, and we do not dare to touch upon this; and Arab and Turkish attackers and violent criminals attacking people in the streets and spilling anti-Christian and anti-Jewish hate speech, get hidden in media from identifying them as "persons" only, without further notice of their Muslim background: because we all know by now that Islam never has anything to do with it; and when a wife gets beaten to death by her husband and a girl gets stabbed by her brother, our courts mention the precious respectability of a foreign Culture and we allow that parallel underground justice tries to hide crimes like these becoming known to law enforcement, and helps to establish a culture of silence, like people in Siciliy remain silent about the Mafia. And we allow all this - but sentence a mediocre cartoonist to pay a fine because she dares to loose a word about it.

I am sure that there are many people who in the silence of their cabin wish that already the first hit attempt against Heedegard would have been successful, so that no second killing attempt would have been necessary that now draws again unwanted attention to some things going terribly wrong within our societies - with almost all of us tolerating it, not daring to speaking out against it, and being threatened by the full force of our new laws if we dare to disagree with the opinion consensus that is being enforced upon us and which to question is labelled a treason that justifies to demonise him, questioning his mental sanity and health, and putting him on one level with racists, nazis and holocaust denial.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You mean he does not get what he deserves? After all, he has been fined by a Danish court because he said that in Islam women are second grade humans only and that before the court their testimony only is of lesser value and that they often fall victim to family rape by male clan members (an the attackers not beign charged).

I think you have misunderstod what I wrote or it may have been my english gramma that could make it look like that. He was fined in court that's correct, but if you had known a little more about that, you would have also known that he was not guilty in high court

Meanwhile, in saudi arabia a cleric has launched a debate about the veil for two year old girls. Because he wants to protect them form horny males. Strange males, these Arab males, if they desire 2 year old girls for bed company, and cannot control their perverted sexual drives like it is demanded from any male by Western laws.

That's just awful and should be condemed by our leaders(if their dare, what they don't)

Hm, have I just offended Arab males - or has that cleric offended Arab males?

And while we have in Germany a big debate about a "sexist"politician who complimented a female journalist about how well she would fill a Dirndl, and America sees the replacement of sexually discriminating terms like "fireman" and "freshman" with "firefighter" and "first-year-student", and Britain saw the replacement of chauvinist "serviceman" with "serviceperson" and "craftsman" with "craftsperson", and while Germans are obsessed with politically correctly talking about "Bürgerinnen und Bürger" and "Wählerinnen und Wähler" und "Steuerzahlerinnen und Steuerzahler" and the EU is pushing for stopping the diswcm rination of women by calling them mothers and ionstead wants people to talk about parent one and parents two, and gender-engineers deny differences between boys and girls and men and women and try to erase the obvious evidences shpowing their hilarious claim to be wrong - girls get imported by the thousands per year from Turkey to Germany to get forced into enforced marriages, and we do not adress this kind of sexism; and ever year many women and girls flee from their Muslim families that enrich our culture so much becasue they want to live by equal rights and in freedom and get threatened by their fathers, husbands and brothers, and we do not dare to touch upon this; and Arab and Turkish attackers and violent criminals attacking people in the streets and spilling anti-Christian and anti-Jewish hate speech, get hidden in media from identifying them as "persons" only, without further notice of their Muslim background: because we all know by now that Islam never has anything to do with it; and when a wife gets beaten to death by her husband and a girl gets stabbed by her brother, our courts mention the precious respectability of a foreign Culture and we allow that parallel underground justice tries to hide crimes like these becoming known to law enforcement, and helps to establish a culture of silence, like people in Siciliy remain silent about the Mafia. And we allow all this - but sentence a mediocre cartoonist to pay a fine because she dares to loose a word about it.

I am sure that there are many people who in the silence of their cabin wish that already the first hit attempt against Heedegard would have been successful, so that no second killing attempt would have been necessary that now draws again unwanted attention to some things going terribly wrong within our societies - with almost all of us tolerating it, not daring to speaking out against it, and being threatened by the full force of our new laws if we dare to disagree with the opinion consensus that is being enforced upon us and which to question is labelled a treason that justifies to demonise him, questioning his mental sanity and health, and putting him on one level with racists, nazis and holocaust denial.

No doubt about that, those people have nothing to do in western democracy to do. They should move to North Korea.

Markus

After all, he has been fined by a Danish court because he said that in Islam women are second grade humans only and that before the court their testimony only is of lesser value and that they often fall victim to family rape by male clan members (an the attackers not beign charged).

Fined?
The case was thrown out on appeal as he said in his defence that by muslims he didn't actually mean muslims, plus what he had said wasn't supposed to be shared in public.

Glad to know the attack failed

Yep, even dumb bigots don't deserve to be murdered by other dumb bigots.

[Jimbuna]

This is even worse than what Salman Rushdie was forced to endure.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by Skybird

After all, he has been fined by a Danish court

Read up on the case again, you're either missing or leaving out details.

[Skybird]

The Frederiksburg District Court found him guilty on racism in January 2011, but did not sentence him because the judge said he did not know that his comments made in a private setting would be published in another person's blog.

In May the same year he was fined 5000 krona by Eastern High Court that overturned the earlier decision, for racist comments.

This is the info on him as far as I know it.

The only detail I have momentarily mistaken is that this Lars Hedegaard and the cartoonist by the Jllstad Posten - who also got attacked in past years - have been taken for one and the same person by me, but in fact are two. Mistaking people for somebody else can happen if you are not familiar with the sound of names in another language you are not so familiar with. And Danish I do not understand, except "tak".

[mapuc]

I sometimes wonder wich country you live in and if there are full cencurship in that country were you live in. And you have no free speech

Markus

The Frederiksburg District Court found him guilty on racism in January 2011

No they didn't.
Racism may be really really dumb, but it isn't a crime.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

No they didn't.
Racism may be really really dumb, but it isn't a crime.

So what is racism??

Many times after his statement the danish newspaper and newschannel have shown us evidence from Yemen, Saudi-Arabia, that Lars was not lying when it comes to rape and kille their own children. Just some days ago there was an article about a 5 year old girl that was raped and killed by her father, in Saudi-Arabia.

That's why I Asked earlier wich country you live in. Because here in Denmark we get info about everything NOTHING is hidden for us.

Let me give you an example

A girl is raped by 4 men that is not danish or europeans let say that they come from the middle east

In the danish news it will say that it was 4 foreigners from middle east.

We even have been told alot about the huge problems our jewish people have here in Denmark and we know it's not the neonazis that's the problem, almost every dane know it's the muslim that are the one who are harassing the jews.

It have come so far that our police and the leader of the jewish community have told the jews that they should hide away the belongings that show they religiouse believes in some area around Copenhagen. And it's in these area where there's most muslim living.

Forgot something. It's not Racism when you critise a religion. It'r racism if you should say that he white people are more advanced then .....
or ...... do this and this and so on. That's racism

Markus

So what is racism??

Dumb bigotry which is usually identified with blanket statements that are simply untrue when examined.

Many times after his statement the danish newspaper and newschannel have shown us evidence from Yemen, Saudi-Arabia, that Lars was not lying when it comes to rape and kille their own children.

Thats irrelevant.
His statement didn't say "some people in Yemen and Saudi do it" did he.
He screwed up by making blanket statements, he got the verdict overturned because he said that he didn't mean to make a blanket statement.

Forgot something. It's not Racism when you critise a religion. It'r racism if you should say that he white people are more advanced then .....
or ...... do this and this and so on. That's racism

No. Its racism if you say the Kikuyu are better than the Kamba, it has nothing to do with pigmentation.
Racism covers both religion and culture too.
To borrow a question from Gentlemans Agreement to illustrate a point, simply answer this.
What is a Jew?

That's why I Asked earlier wich country you live in. Because here in Denmark we get info about everything NOTHING is hidden for us.

Oh that was meant for me was it?
It is written plainly on every post of mine you read.
As for NOTHING is hidden????you have got to be kidding, can I call a CAPSLOCK on that statement

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

can I call a CAPSLOCK on that statement

Only if you pay proper sacrificial tribute of pretzels to the followers of CAPSLOCK first.

[Oberon]

And make a tribute to the Patron Saint of Capslock: