Actual Kaibokans for modding.

Flaskegaard · 01-29-13, 08:17 PM

For the last month, I have been in search of a realistic looking Kaibokan for my SH4 v1.4 game. When I added TMO 1.7.6 and saw a Kaibokan listed as one of the add-on ships, I found out it was just a re-flagged American Evarts DE, although I have to admit there is enough of a resemblence for it to be better than none at all. I also saw a Kaibokan that was in another mod that left a lot to be desired, however I am the LAST person to criticize anyone else's attempts at creating a Kaibokan, realistic looking or not. At least they tried. Since I am absolutely no good at modding, I decided to provide info and specs for those that are. I have found two good sources of info on actual Kaibokans. Here is a page that shows what the most common look of a Kaibokan: www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25065.0.html. I also am adding a Wikipedia page that lists all six types of Kaibokans used by the IJN: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaibokan. Hopefully, this info will help anyone creating / modding ships for SH4 1.4 and 1.5. Good luck!

tater · 01-30-13, 01:40 AM

I kitbashed better looking kaibokan out of japanese ships ages ago.

Flaskegaard · 01-30-13, 01:50 AM

Yes, that is the best I've seen so far. It looks like one of the earlier classes of Kaibokan, as it has just six YGuns. Probably SHIMUSU or ETOROFU class. Very good job!

Moonlight · 01-30-13, 08:20 AM

Is there a downloadable mod of your kaibokan tater, or are you keeping that little beauty to yourself.

tater · 01-30-13, 01:02 PM

It's in RSRD. There are multiples, and the CD-C and CD-D ties are also different. The radars on all escorts change over time as well (both in behavior, and appearance). The C/D types have more throwers, too, I just don't have a pic handy.

Moonlight · 01-30-13, 04:15 PM

Thank you for the info tater, I have RSRDC and the patch and will get round to it again when the GFO campaign is done.

TorpX · 01-30-13, 09:46 PM

Looks nice Tater.

tater · 01-30-13, 11:23 PM

RSRD has the kaibokans I did (early, then both C and D types), variants of the subchasers (different radars, etc visible on the masts). It also has the moving radars and gun directors for the larger ships (watch Yamato in RSRD if you ever see her, the radar sweeps, and if you surface, the gun director will point at you

). I think I bashed a mats DE as well. It;s been several years, lol.

AOTD_MadMax · 01-31-13, 04:38 AM

Thats not an Kaibokan but thats an japanese latewar DD, the Matsu Class.
Ive build it for FOTRS.

Regards

Maddy

tater · 02-01-13, 02:17 AM

I know what a Matsu is

The only pic I have is an early in-progress shot (again, this is from maybe 2006 or 2007, lol)

AOTD_MadMax · 02-01-13, 10:27 AM

Iam back again,

today in the morning i started to work out the C-Type Kaibokan.

Here the first picture :

Now iam gonne work out the details and the Zon-file !
Perhaps next Weekend the vessel is ready.

Regards

Maddy

AVGWarhawk · 02-01-13, 11:35 AM

Nice Maddy. I have not played SH4 for quite sometime. Seriously, your continued work has me wanting to play again. I'm waiting for 2.0. It will be a new game for me!

Appreciate the efforts!

tater · 02-01-13, 11:55 AM

Nice. Here's a C type for you:

AOTD_MadMax · 02-01-13, 06:59 PM

Hi Tater,

i have worked a little bit.....

Regards

Maddy

tater · 02-01-13, 07:20 PM

If you're trying to get me interested in SH4 again... it's working.

01-29-13, 08:17 PM	#1
Flaskegaard Medic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Washington State, USA Posts: 159 Downloads: 885 Uploads: 0	Actual Kaibokans for modding. For the last month, I have been in search of a realistic looking Kaibokan for my SH4 v1.4 game. When I added TMO 1.7.6 and saw a Kaibokan listed as one of the add-on ships, I found out it was just a re-flagged American Evarts DE, although I have to admit there is enough of a resemblence for it to be better than none at all. I also saw a Kaibokan that was in another mod that left a lot to be desired, however I am the LAST person to criticize anyone else's attempts at creating a Kaibokan, realistic looking or not. At least they tried. Since I am absolutely no good at modding, I decided to provide info and specs for those that are. I have found two good sources of info on actual Kaibokans. Here is a page that shows what the most common look of a Kaibokan: www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,25065.0.html. I also am adding a Wikipedia page that lists all six types of Kaibokans used by the IJN: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaibokan. Hopefully, this info will help anyone creating / modding ships for SH4 1.4 and 1.5. Good luck!

01-30-13, 01:40 AM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I kitbashed better looking kaibokan out of japanese ships ages ago. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

01-30-13, 01:02 PM	#5
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It's in RSRD. There are multiples, and the CD-C and CD-D ties are also different. The radars on all escorts change over time as well (both in behavior, and appearance). The C/D types have more throwers, too, I just don't have a pic handy. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

01-30-13, 11:23 PM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	RSRD has the kaibokans I did (early, then both C and D types), variants of the subchasers (different radars, etc visible on the masts). It also has the moving radars and gun directors for the larger ships (watch Yamato in RSRD if you ever see her, the radar sweeps, and if you surface, the gun director will point at you ). I think I bashed a mats DE as well. It;s been several years, lol. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

01-31-13, 04:38 AM	#9
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	Thats not an Kaibokan but thats an japanese latewar DD, the Matsu Class. Ive build it for FOTRS. Regards Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

01-30-13, 01:50 AM	#3
Flaskegaard Medic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Washington State, USA Posts: 159 Downloads: 885 Uploads: 0	Yes, that is the best I've seen so far. It looks like one of the earlier classes of Kaibokan, as it has just six YGuns. Probably SHIMUSU or ETOROFU class. Very good job!

01-30-13, 08:20 AM	#4
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,519 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	Is there a downloadable mod of your kaibokan tater, or are you keeping that little beauty to yourself.

01-30-13, 04:15 PM	#6
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,519 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	Thank you for the info tater, I have RSRDC and the patch and will get round to it again when the GFO campaign is done.

01-30-13, 09:46 PM	#7
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Looks nice Tater.

02-01-13, 02:17 AM	#10
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I know what a Matsu is The only pic I have is an early in-progress shot (again, this is from maybe 2006 or 2007, lol) __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

02-01-13, 10:27 AM	#11
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	Iam back again, today in the morning i started to work out the C-Type Kaibokan. Here the first picture : Now iam gonne work out the details and the Zon-file ! Perhaps next Weekend the vessel is ready. Regards Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

02-01-13, 11:35 AM	#12
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Nice Maddy. I have not played SH4 for quite sometime. Seriously, your continued work has me wanting to play again. I'm waiting for 2.0. It will be a new game for me! Appreciate the efforts! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-01-13, 11:55 AM	#13
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Nice. Here's a C type for you: __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

02-01-13, 06:59 PM	#14
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	Hi Tater, i have worked a little bit..... Regards Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

02-01-13, 07:20 PM	#15
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	If you're trying to get me interested in SH4 again... it's working. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine