RAF minelaying locations

igorlikespike · 12-11-12, 05:15 PM

Hello!

I'm kindly asking for help - does anyone have knowledge of where exactly did the RAF laid its extenssive minefields or a map perhaps? I am trying to incorporate this data in scr.file to add to realism (Like minefield barriers around UK), but want to know approx locations and not just making minefields as I see most likely. All info that I got so far is that RAF Bomber command did extensive "gardening" of Bay of Biscay, Gulfs of Kiel & Danzig/Gdansk and Heligoland Bight.
Any help is much appreciated!

Jimbuna · 12-11-12, 06:36 PM

I have Admiralty charts of certain areas around the UK.

igorlikespike · 12-13-12, 01:01 AM

Hello! I appreciate your offer, but do you perhaps have any Admiralty charts of British minefields in enemy waters? I am interested primarily in offensive laid minefields in German controlled waters - be they laid by RAF bombers or RN subs and destroyers.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I have Admiralty charts of certain areas around the UK.

Sailor Steve · 12-13-12, 01:11 AM

GWX has the minefields properly located, which is why Jim has the charts.

Jimbuna · 12-13-12, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by igorlikespike

Hello! I appreciate your offer, but do you perhaps have any Admiralty charts of British minefields in enemy waters? I am interested primarily in offensive laid minefields in German controlled waters - be they laid by RAF bombers or RN subs and destroyers.

No problem...I was under the impression the southern part of the English Channel considered enemy territory. You might want to check out the German archipelago Heligoland a little north of Wilhelmshaven.

Jimbuna · 12-13-12, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

GWX has the minefields properly located, which is why Jim has the charts.

Rgr that

igorlikespike · 12-14-12, 01:48 AM

Please, don' get my posts wrong, I did not mean to be in any way disrespectful to you GWX developers team. The fact that you Jimbuna, got those minefield charts and incorporated the data into the game, really put some emphasis on mine warfare at sea. As far as I remebmer, in vanilla SH3 all the mines and subnets were around ports, let alone around eastern UK coast, and those German port barriers were not even charted as you GWX team did. Now Kaleuns have to be careful when sailing near Hartlepool, Dover and Heligoland, whereas in vanilla game you never bothered about your approach to enemy coastal waters. (and yes I got to know the mine trap in Heligoland-Wilhelmshaven area, when searching the post about mines in SH3, i have yet to encounter one myself.)

The reason why I asked for help in basically I would like to make srcipted mission file in which I would use excellent rowi58's minelayer (hope he allows it), organise it into small groups and then set them on periodical minelaying missions around UK. I would also put British laid minefields in all German shipping lanes as was the case in real life. As I care about historical accuracy, I thought that the RAF and RN minelayer subs, had printed a map of specific areas where they laid their deadly eggs. (Yes, one can assume where they would be laid, I just want to be as historically accurate as possible.) After this I would test it in the game (other testers very welcome!) and put the file int downloads page. I really want to contribute sometnihg to this game, not just dowloading/reaping other peoples efforts for my pleasure at no cost to myself.

Jimbuna · 12-14-12, 07:42 AM

This link may be of use:

http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Ops-Minelaying.htm

igorlikespike · 12-15-12, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

This link may be of use:

http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Ops-Minelaying.htm

Thanks, I already found it, now I'm continuing to dig for maps.

Jimbuna · 12-15-12, 04:13 AM

Have a look at museum archives in Germany and the UK.

igorlikespike · 12-15-12, 08:20 AM

Will try.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Have a look at museum archives in Germany and the UK.

Sailor Steve · 12-15-12, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by igorlikespike

The reason why I asked for help in basically I would like to make srcipted mission file in which I would use excellent rowi58's minelayer (hope he allows it), organise it into small groups and then set them on periodical minelaying missions around UK.

Sorry I misunderstood. That's a pretty cool idea.

igorlikespike · 12-16-12, 10:50 AM

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Sorry I misunderstood. That's a pretty cool idea.

12-11-12, 05:15 PM	#1
igorlikespike Helmsman Join Date: May 2011 Location: Slovenia Posts: 101 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 1	RAF minelaying locations Hello! I'm kindly asking for help - does anyone have knowledge of where exactly did the RAF laid its extenssive minefields or a map perhaps? I am trying to incorporate this data in scr.file to add to realism (Like minefield barriers around UK), but want to know approx locations and not just making minefields as I see most likely. All info that I got so far is that RAF Bomber command did extensive "gardening" of Bay of Biscay, Gulfs of Kiel & Danzig/Gdansk and Heligoland Bight. Any help is much appreciated!

12-11-12, 06:36 PM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I have Admiralty charts of certain areas around the UK. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-13-12, 01:11 AM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	GWX has the minefields properly located, which is why Jim has the charts. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-14-12, 07:42 AM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	This link may be of use: http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Ops-Minelaying.htm __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-15-12, 04:13 AM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Have a look at museum archives in Germany and the UK. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-14-12, 01:48 AM	#7
igorlikespike Helmsman Join Date: May 2011 Location: Slovenia Posts: 101 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 1	Please, don' get my posts wrong, I did not mean to be in any way disrespectful to you GWX developers team. The fact that you Jimbuna, got those minefield charts and incorporated the data into the game, really put some emphasis on mine warfare at sea. As far as I remebmer, in vanilla SH3 all the mines and subnets were around ports, let alone around eastern UK coast, and those German port barriers were not even charted as you GWX team did. Now Kaleuns have to be careful when sailing near Hartlepool, Dover and Heligoland, whereas in vanilla game you never bothered about your approach to enemy coastal waters. (and yes I got to know the mine trap in Heligoland-Wilhelmshaven area, when searching the post about mines in SH3, i have yet to encounter one myself.) The reason why I asked for help in basically I would like to make srcipted mission file in which I would use excellent rowi58's minelayer (hope he allows it), organise it into small groups and then set them on periodical minelaying missions around UK. I would also put British laid minefields in all German shipping lanes as was the case in real life. As I care about historical accuracy, I thought that the RAF and RN minelayer subs, had printed a map of specific areas where they laid their deadly eggs. (Yes, one can assume where they would be laid, I just want to be as historically accurate as possible.) After this I would test it in the game (other testers very welcome!) and put the file int downloads page. I really want to contribute sometnihg to this game, not just dowloading/reaping other peoples efforts for my pleasure at no cost to myself.