And the award for worst protection detail goes too...

[TLAM Strike]

The Czech Republic!

The attacker wearing military camouflage approached Klaus during a ceremony to open a bridge in Chrastava, a village 100 km north of Prague, television footage showed.

He opened fire with a handgun that fires plastic pellets used in a game called airsoft, similar to paintball, Nova TV said on its website.

Click the link for the video.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/09...h-toy-handgun/

The guy fired off about nine shots less than three feet from his target, and no one did anything, except one (a guard?) who politely escorted him away.

[soopaman2]

Have you had true Budweis ,The original Budweiser? (the forum has trouble rendering the true spelling, so I went with budweis)

Before America pissed in the can to water it down.

So what if they are not as alert, if you had the beer you could see why.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Have you had true Budweis ,The original Budweiser? (the forum has trouble rendering the true spelling, so I went with budweis)

Before America pissed in the can to water it down.

So what if they are not as alert, if you had the beer you could see why.

If beer is causing performance like that, maybe they should hire me because I don't drink that I would have put that punk on the floor.

[mapuc]

I hope that these secret service men are in a big shame now. This time it was, thank God, only some type of paintball gun, but what if....

Markus

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

If beer is causing performance like that, maybe they should hire me because I don't drink that I would have put that punk on the floor.

You are also American, with firearm experience as a hobby and not a job requirement. (just a guess, If you are an LEO, I feel dumb for saying the previous sentence)

They cannot all be as skilled as us.

I been shooting since before I had hair on my yakahoola (whatever that means). Most Americans have. You cannot expect the same discipline from those who got a 2 week training session.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

You are also American, with firearm experience as a hobby and not a job requirement. (just a guess, If you are an LEO, I feel dumb for saying the previous sentence)

They cannot all be as skilled as us.

I been shooting since before I had hair on my yakahoola (whatever that means). Most Americans have. You cannot expect the same discipline from those who got a 2 week training session.

2 weeks ????

I thought that to become a secret service man you had to go through alot of training a.s.o and it would take a few years, before you could call yourself a secret service man.

Markus

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by mapuc

2 weeks ????

I thought that to become a secret service man you had to go through alot of training a.s.o and it would take a few years, before you could call yourself a secret service man.

Markus

I shot my first weapon at age 7. A shotgun, I held it against my face like I saw in movies, and gave myself a black eye. (I kept missing, so I held it like a rifle, my uncle laughed at me, and called me a moron)
My training course was life experience, hunting game, and tin cans

Not a paper target, and a loud instructor.

That was my point, maybe 2 weeks is inaccurate.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

You are also American, with firearm experience as a hobby and not a job requirement. (just a guess, If you are an LEO, I feel dumb for saying the previous sentence)

They cannot all be as skilled as us.

I been shooting since before I had hair on my yakahoola (whatever that means). Most Americans have. You cannot expect the same discipline from those who got a 2 week training session.

If these are some locally trained wannabes I hope they know there are some big nasty guys with big nasty guns available for hire:



They are only protecting their President...

[Stealhead]

The Czech beer that has the "Budweiser" merely has the same name as Anheuser Busch nothing more and Anheuser Busch did not copy the flavor of Budweiser Budvar.

Budweiser Budvar, a brewery founded in 1895 by Czech-speaking citizens of ***268;eské Bud***283;jovice.the beer itself has been around longer than that though.Sine this websites sensor is utterly ridiculous I'll code the name using extremely basic encryption key A=1 B=2 Z=26...... first word... 3,5,11,5 second word 2,21,4,5,10,22,9,3,5.

Budweiser (Anheuser-Busch), made by Anheuser-Busch in the United States, was first marketed in 1876 as "Budweiser" in the United States and Canada.

Budweiser Budvar was in the US market in 1871 and for whatever reason Anheuser-Busch did start using the Budweiser name for their beer in 1876 which might be why some think that it a copy of Budweiser Budvar in taste as well as name.

Personally I think that the notion that it was 100% copied is a marketing gimmick used in the US and Canada.


I had that Czech "Bud" once or twice while stationed in Germany it not really anything special an beer as average as the American Bud and tastes worse than the standard Budweiser by Anheuser Busch.It rates poor in my book and I drank a lot of very good German,Dutch, Belgian,and some Czech beers.

The Czech Republic especially Prague is a hot party spot for young Western Europeans because the city is very interesting and unique looking also a man can find lots of "interesting" and "unique" women there trust me and he if is a total failure or does want to try at all he can just go to a brothel(not to say that all Czech women are sluts or anything).As a result of these facts there are tons of cheap beers brewed in the Czech Republic that serves as libation for partyers. I know what I speak of here from personal experiences and of witnessing others.You wont forget a trip to Prague.

The details crappiness was not the result of Budweiser Budvar.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

If these are some locally trained wannabes I hope they know there are some big nasty guys with big nasty guns available for hire:

They are only protecting their President...

I dunno, they don't look that well to me, their faces have got that black box disease.

[joea]

Wow.

Anyway, best Czech beer=Staropromen.

[mapuc]

Here's a story from many years ago, when my neighbors had a young man from israel as a "change student"
He had applied to be accepted by Mossad personal safety training or whatever it was called. I remember he told me that it took some years. Can not remember everything in detail, can remember he told me that it was an introductory militarily training.

Asked him what he could use this training for if he is approved

-I can take work as secret service, for example, the U.S. president or any other top politician.

It was in the late 80s and after he went home and started this training, I have not heard any more from him.

So I do not know if he completed the training or if he was accepted

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I dunno, they don't look that well to me, their faces have got that black box disease.

LOL...an automatic rifle should always make you look big

[Oberon]

Little-known facts about the SAS:

1. All UK pubs are required by law to have one alcoholic regular who used to be a member of the SAS and was 2nd Man On the Balcony at the Iranian Embassy.
2. Contrary to popular belief, Andy McNab's real name is not Cyril Clunge. They are two entirely different individuals... allegedly.
3. The Stig was in the SAS.
4. All British soldiers have a mate who knows McNab and thinks that he's either a good bloke or a ------.
5. During selection, potential SAS recruits are required to bite the head off a live ferret - except in Dog Soldiers where they have to shoot a live dog!
6. All SAS men must now sign a contract agreeing never to disclose anything about their service, never to call any officer 'Sir' and never to trim their moustaches.
7. The wine served in both messes at Stirling Lines (complete with Winged Dagger SAS motif wine label) is in fact, cheap German wine purchased from the local Netto.
8. Inside the Sgt's Mess in a glass case is a dressed up mannequin in genuine Iranian Embassy garb! Only it's not a mannequin. It is in fact none other than Lofty Wiseman, who is paid to stand in the glass case completely still from 12.30pm until the bar closes around midnight. He is entitled to free food and refreshments in the bar too.
9. They are vulnerable to kryptonite, but only during a full moon.
10. All serving SAS soldiers are discreet, witty, down-to-earth, good blokes; none of them are Waltish, swollen-headed, egotistical, prima donnas with a hotline to the Daily Mirror's Defence Correspondent.
11. Since Dog Soldiers came out, all SAS weapons are loaded with silver bullets in case they meet real werewolves.
12. To prepare for his role as Henno Garvey in Ultimate Force, actor Ross Kemp practised milling with his wife - flame haired editrix Rebekah Wade. Unfortunately he lost and was RTU'd to Eastenders. [Did Rebekah get through selection?]
13. David Stirling, the SAS founder, had a pet hamster called Bismark.
14. Andy McNab now runs an Anne Summers franchise in Brighton.
15. Trooper Jimbo 'The Hatchet' Johnson's autobiography On The [Booze] In Hereford has been turned down by 37 publishers.
16. My Dad was in the SAS.
17. During the Malayan Emergency the SAS were known by the Communist guerrillas as 'The Moustaches from Hell'.
18. The Sultan of Oman owes the SAS a few beers... probably a brewery - and an ale named after them too. I would like a pint of Special Ale Service please barman. Sounds good to me anyway.
19. The SAS spelt backwards is SAS.
20. The real Iranian Embassy siege only lasted two minutes. The TV footage was a dramatised re-enactment for the cameras.
21. During the Falklands Conflict the SAS pioneered the use of specially trained exploding penguins.
22. In the first Gulf War the SAS pioneered the use of laser-guided specially-trained exploding 'smart' camels.
23. The SAS are wanted for questioning by the World Wildlife Fund, the RSPCA and David Attenborough.
24. 'A Fresher Sod' is an anagram of SAS Hereford.
25. Most people in the town of Hereford have eleven toes and play the theme tune from the film Deliverance on the banjo.
26. SAS is an anagram of ASS.
27. The SAS drink Scrumpy. Lots of it.
28. The SAS drink anything. Lots of it.
29. The Australian SAS have a mounted Kangaroo Squadron.
30. The Iranian SAS don't exist.
31. More soldiers have been RTU'd from Hereford than have actually served in the army since 1624.
32. SAS initiation rituals include eating the torso of a child, drowning spaniel puppies and drinking a whole bottle of cider... Fackin Nails!
33. Colour blindness is reason for RTU, as not correctly quoting the colour of the Boathouse is a security breach.
34. SAS soldiers carry a tampon with them in their first aid pack, it has many uses.
35. SAS soldiers also carry condoms for water collection in an emergency, allegedly.
36. The SAS selection process includes escaping in a Mondeo through a chemical plant full of obstacles. Hardly fair for those who have no driving licence.
37. The SAS are famous for the 'double-tap'. This is where they tap you on the shoulder not once, but twice to gain your attention.
38. The Polish SAS are also famous for 'double-taps'. They are all cross trained as plumbers.
39. It is claimed that the SAS are so well-trained in covert operations, that a single soldier can steal a 24 pack of Wifebeater from Netto, drink it, and put the empty box back before anyone notices it's gone.
40. Instead of the biscuits brown, SAS members receive 2 packets of Iced Gems in their specially made ration packs.
41. Amongst their most famous ex-members is The Leprechaun of Death.
42. The SAS have an OP watching Gray's Lane, Ashtead. It's still there... in case the NIMBYs get snotty again.
43. SAS men are trained to eat Ferrero Rocher at Ambassadors' receptions without attracting attention.
44. The SAS, and their sister organisation the SBS, are blamed for the Army-wide shortage of 'Black Nasty'. This is the tape they use to cover their eyes when they see photographers around.
45. A lucrative living can be made by any paparazzo with the foresight to carry Elastoplast when photographing the SAS or SBS.
46. John Smeaton has been asked by the SAS to give a presentation on 'Putting The Boot In - a Scottish method for dealing with Islam's muppets'.
47. The tabloid rumours about the SAS almost catching bin Laden in the Tora Boras are actually all true. Afterwards, the President personally phoned the SAS squad in the mountains and told them to wait for the US Marines. The SAS decided to go into the caves and challenge bin Laden and his Al Qaeda cronies to a game of cribbage. Luckily, Colour Sergeant Mabelle Farthington, the first 65 year-old woman allowed to join the elite unit, had just competed in a tournament at the Credenhill Village Hall where she was announced cribbage champion of Herefordshire county. Safe to say Mabelle was up for the challenge and bin Laden suffered a devastating defeat. Unfortunately bin Laden escaped unnoticed during Mabelle's shuffling cards for the next round. He has not been seen since, yet some believe he died from humiliation shortly after the ordeal.
48. After recent problems with pikeys stealing the Golden Gates to Heaven, St. Peter has called upon G squadron to set up a recce just inside the gates. Thus far, one hundred and twenty-seven pikeys, three pawn store owners, seven nuns, a bishop, twelve vicars, and Moses on a drunken bender have been captured. St. Peter has expressed his joy at the SAS's success and is asking them to train a force to stay permanently. "Sources" close to God say His Holiness is very pleased with the results.
49. The highest rate of service divorce is attributed to the SAS - spouses often blaming the training. Marge McNab [No not that one, the another one, honest.] said 'Our sex life is rubbish. 'He is trained to get in and out without anyone noticing, including me!'
50. A certain number of ex-SAS men meet once a year to discuss book deals and creative writing styles. Head of the long page literary group (LPLG) Chris 'I've killed hundreds' Ryan was unable to attend the last meeting as he had severe pen flash: a type of burn from writing so much, so quickly.
51. During Desert Storm, one sergeant who led an ill-fated patrol was once heard to say "The pen is mightier than the M16 203".
52. The SAS is so hard that Ultimate Force DVDs can double as ballistic plates... no, seriously!
53. Selection is not the British army's hardest course to pass. The catering course is. To date no-one has passed.
54. The lads NEVER discuss operations in the pubs and clubs around the city of Hereford. I have never heard them do so and would not know what to listen out for either.
55. Teams of four, eight and sometimes twelve guys do not go on the [Booze] and pose around making it obvious just who they are.
56. They do not try to out psyche anybody foolish enough to stare at them and they never ever wear discrete but oh so obvious military hardware that just cannot be obtained anywhere else except from the QM's stores up at the base! All this is strictly tongue in cheek by the way. Love ya really guys. It's just that most of us - after military service - just faded into the background and got on with the rest of our lives!
57. Contrary to popular belief, SQMS in 'Them' do not issue long droopy moustaches along with MP5s - this has to be 'grown'. But the moustache will only grow once the trooper has evaded capture for three months or longer.
58. All ex 'Them' do not drive round their local village in '90 landies' sliding round corners into parking slots then diving from their vehicles into a perfect forward roll, just to post a letter to their moms.
59. Contrary to popular belief, 'They' do stag like everyone else. 'They' can sometimes be seen wandering aimlessly (in slow motion) around the perimeter fence in groups of four or six - in full black rig - with shotguns over their shoulders. Sometimes encountered on the pan for no apparent reason, complete with background music.
60. There are at least five undercover SAS operatives signing on at any UK Job Centre, all going under the alias Andy McNab. At least two of them will confess to being Second Man On The Balcony on any job application form.
61. The Baron of Castleshort was almost definitely, probably once nearly a member of the SAS, and is the proud owner of an SAS beret which he bought after not passing selection.

Taken from AARSEpedia.

[Skybird]

Even when considering that this was a bath in the crowd and thus any security's nightmare scenario:

Terrible.

Unacceptable. Horrifying.

A complete failure both in tactical organisation and mental attitude. These amateurs are definitely in the wrong profession and should be fired.

Bodyguards have to always expect the worst. If they don't , then they have an attitude problem. The guy finally promenading towards the "shooter", smiling, was more concerned about politeness and friendliness, then anything else. Such an attitude is always a maximum risk to any security operation, and in case of alarm it easily leads to object person and guard colleagues getting injured and killed.

If guards melt into the environment and do not get recognised immediately, this is good. But it took an eternity before there was the first man - the smiley - reacting at all. Which means there was no close security around: complete operational fail. The field players should be fired. But the coach in command and control and who has planned the operation, should be tarred and feathered.