Thank you, modders

Hottentot · 09-14-12, 05:12 AM

In the middle of all the politics, world events, "you is stoopid", "am not" and "are too", I just wanted to stop and say something: thank you Subsim modders. Not only because you mod. Many communities have modders and many games have mods. No: thank you, because you mod well.

I've been meaning to write this for a while, since I use mods in many games. Before I start, I'm making this clear as day: I appreciate all the modders for doing lots of work for free and trying to improve any game. Yet I don't feel it's unreasonable to say that there are things that separate excellent modders and mods from any ordinary mod and modder.

From a mod users point of view a few points, which make the Subsim modders firmly belong in the first category.

1: Thank you for keeping it simple. No, really. This is the most important for me: thank you for having good Readmes and thank you for taking time to make easy one click installers for the bigger mods. Thank you for not writing a novel about how I should first modify this file and then combine it with this file and then throw the new file away, because it actually wasn't necessary at all and in fact I need to do it all over again while standing on my hands and singing. Thank you for not starting the Readmes by saying: "In order to make this mod work, you need to download this, this, this and this mod from here, here, there and there."

Thank you for not expecting me as a mod user to have followed your life from the cradle and therefore knowing everything that has happened with your mod within the last 3 years: thank you for writing the version history down and not necessarily even requiring me to read it in order to play.

Edit: And thank you for writing easily readable Readmes instead of telling stories of your family life with "LOOOOOOOOL" added here and there for a good measure.

2: Thank you for support. Thank you for being willing to improve your mods if people seem to have a technical problem and thank you for trying to help with solving the problem. The mods I have used here have always worked without problems on my system, but I appreciate it nevertheless when I see this in discussion. Thank you for not saying: "Well it works on my machine." Also thank you for not saying: "OK, it's easy, all you need to do is to modify these possibly essential system files in your computer in order to make it work. By the way, I'm not responsible if this burns down your system." Thank you for improving your mods to make them work on as many systems as possible.

3: Thank you for not being pricks. Thank you for not arrogantly declaring how the devs are stupid and biased lemmings, who should be licking your feet along with the community because you are there to "fix" the game. Thank you for not calling your personal unfounded gut feelings of how platform X should perform compared to platform Y as a "historical fix" and calling anyone who disagrees with you an idiot.

4: Thank you for not trying to create completely new games. Some of us, myself included, actually like what came in the vanilla and we'd just like it improved. Therefore thank you for not making a big mod pack with many improvements and then adding ghosts with laser guns in it just because you think it's lulz bolz. And if you do, thank you for giving me a clear option not to install them along with the improvements.

5: Thank you for not thinking that "challenge" is synonomous to "artificial difficulty".

I could go on but probably the community members here have something to add as well, so I'm stepping off the soapbox now for a while and giving it to them. Just repeating once more: thank you not for being modders. Instead Thank You for being cool.

Oberon · 09-14-12, 06:57 AM

Ooooh, soapbox!

Ahem

I completely agree with Hottentot, I've tried my hand at modding a couple of times, and whilst some games are more open-ended than others, it's still a sod of a task that requires a lot of manpower to put into it, and the closest I've got is the odd badly made map.
Therefore, I can only echo the stutterer in thanking YOU the modders, for your time and creations.

Dowly · 09-14-12, 08:31 AM

Still waiting for that Black Pearl mod.

Herr-Berbunch · 09-14-12, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Still waiting for that Black Pearl mod.

Along with the life-size Keira.

I'll echo the multitude (yes Dowly, it does say that word in the middle

) of thank yous by Hottentot.

Jimbuna · 09-14-12, 11:12 AM

I put it down to the community spirit (especially in SH3 terms) we've had for many a year here.

It takes all sorts and...none of us is as wise as all of us

STEED · 09-14-12, 11:58 AM

Time to crack open the bubbly..

09-14-12, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Still waiting for that Black Pearl mod.

Is that a poke?

Quote:

I don't even have time to play the actual thing anymore

Wait! What? You... You mean your supposed to play the Games?

What a concept!!

soopaman2 · 09-14-12, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hottentot

1: Thank you for keeping it simple. No, really. This is the most important for me: thank you for having good Readmes and thank you for taking time to make easy one click installers for the bigger mods. Thank you for not writing a novel about how I should first modify this file and then combine it with this file and then throw the new file away, because it actually wasn't necessary at all and in fact I need to do it all over again while standing on my hands and singing. Thank you for not starting the Readmes by saying: "In order to make this mod work, you need to download this, this, this and this mod from here, here, there and there."

Thank you for not expecting me as a mod user to have followed your life from the cradle and therefore knowing everything that has happened with your mod within the last 3 years: thank you for writing the version history down and not necessarily even requiring me to read it in order to play.

Edit: And thank you for writing easily readable Readmes instead of telling stories of your family life with "LOOOOOOOOL" added here and there for a good measure.

You must have tried to install an Empire total war mod.

Those are easy, flight sim mods are generally an utter nightmare.

The great modders is how I found this place. The community kept me around.

Hats off to all of you, but much love and thanks to the modders.

u crank · 09-14-12, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soopaman2

The great modders is how I found this place. The community kept me around.

Couldn't have said it better.

CCIP · 09-14-12, 04:10 PM

No! Modders are terrible! They made me unable to look at games the same way again. Now anytime I get a new game I'm like "I'm not happy with this, this and this. How can I change it?"

. Then I get on the internet, get mods. Then I'm still not happy. Then next thing I know I'm knee-deep in editing config files and learning how to script things in the game. Then making the game the way I want it becomes an end in itself, and by the time I'm done, I don't even have time to play the actual thing anymore. All because those modders showed me what my game, any game, could be like, if I tried hard enough

Kloef · 09-14-12, 04:46 PM

You are kidding right?

Mods made me play loads of games over and over again, when there where new games to discover, you missed out on great moments with your clanmates because you kinda got stuck with the dinosaurs in your own little TS channel because 'simmers are different' ( and we love to encourage such thoughts don't we?). Dino's are survivors, like modders..we are still here and the others have gone, and gone, and gone etc..

But seriously if it weren't for the modders alot of my games would be for sale or disposed of, and it keeps me from buying a new PC cause i'm waaaay overspecced for things like SH3 GWX

, which is a nice thing.

Great topic btw, i like thankfull people.

09-14-12, 05:12 AM	#1
Hottentot Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My private socialist utopia of Finland Posts: 1,918 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thank you, modders In the middle of all the politics, world events, "you is stoopid", "am not" and "are too", I just wanted to stop and say something: thank you Subsim modders. Not only because you mod. Many communities have modders and many games have mods. No: thank you, because you mod well. I've been meaning to write this for a while, since I use mods in many games. Before I start, I'm making this clear as day: I appreciate all the modders for doing lots of work for free and trying to improve any game. Yet I don't feel it's unreasonable to say that there are things that separate excellent modders and mods from any ordinary mod and modder. From a mod users point of view a few points, which make the Subsim modders firmly belong in the first category. 1: Thank you for keeping it simple. No, really. This is the most important for me: thank you for having good Readmes and thank you for taking time to make easy one click installers for the bigger mods. Thank you for not writing a novel about how I should first modify this file and then combine it with this file and then throw the new file away, because it actually wasn't necessary at all and in fact I need to do it all over again while standing on my hands and singing. Thank you for not starting the Readmes by saying: "In order to make this mod work, you need to download this, this, this and this mod from here, here, there and there." Thank you for not expecting me as a mod user to have followed your life from the cradle and therefore knowing everything that has happened with your mod within the last 3 years: thank you for writing the version history down and not necessarily even requiring me to read it in order to play. Edit: And thank you for writing easily readable Readmes instead of telling stories of your family life with "LOOOOOOOOL" added here and there for a good measure. 2: Thank you for support. Thank you for being willing to improve your mods if people seem to have a technical problem and thank you for trying to help with solving the problem. The mods I have used here have always worked without problems on my system, but I appreciate it nevertheless when I see this in discussion. Thank you for not saying: "Well it works on my machine." Also thank you for not saying: "OK, it's easy, all you need to do is to modify these possibly essential system files in your computer in order to make it work. By the way, I'm not responsible if this burns down your system." Thank you for improving your mods to make them work on as many systems as possible. 3: Thank you for not being pricks. Thank you for not arrogantly declaring how the devs are stupid and biased lemmings, who should be licking your feet along with the community because you are there to "fix" the game. Thank you for not calling your personal unfounded gut feelings of how platform X should perform compared to platform Y as a "historical fix" and calling anyone who disagrees with you an idiot. 4: Thank you for not trying to create completely new games. Some of us, myself included, actually like what came in the vanilla and we'd just like it improved. Therefore thank you for not making a big mod pack with many improvements and then adding ghosts with laser guns in it just because you think it's lulz bolz. And if you do, thank you for giving me a clear option not to install them along with the improvements. 5: Thank you for not thinking that "challenge" is synonomous to "artificial difficulty". I could go on but probably the community members here have something to add as well, so I'm stepping off the soapbox now for a while and giving it to them. Just repeating once more: thank you not for being modders. Instead Thank You for being cool. __________________ Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда.

09-14-12, 11:12 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I put it down to the community spirit (especially in SH3 terms) we've had for many a year here. It takes all sorts and...none of us is as wise as all of us __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-14-12, 11:58 AM	#6
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Time to crack open the bubbly.. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

09-14-12, 04:10 PM	#10
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	No! Modders are terrible! They made me unable to look at games the same way again. Now anytime I get a new game I'm like "I'm not happy with this, this and this. How can I change it?" . Then I get on the internet, get mods. Then I'm still not happy. Then next thing I know I'm knee-deep in editing config files and learning how to script things in the game. Then making the game the way I want it becomes an end in itself, and by the time I'm done, I don't even have time to play the actual thing anymore. All because those modders showed me what my game, any game, could be like, if I tried hard enough __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

09-14-12, 04:46 PM	#11
Kloef Weps Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 360 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	You are kidding right? Mods made me play loads of games over and over again, when there where new games to discover, you missed out on great moments with your clanmates because you kinda got stuck with the dinosaurs in your own little TS channel because 'simmers are different' ( and we love to encourage such thoughts don't we?). Dino's are survivors, like modders..we are still here and the others have gone, and gone, and gone etc.. But seriously if it weren't for the modders alot of my games would be for sale or disposed of, and it keeps me from buying a new PC cause i'm waaaay overspecced for things like SH3 GWX, which is a nice thing. Great topic btw, i like thankfull people. __________________ http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/

09-14-12, 06:57 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Ooooh, soapbox! Ahem I completely agree with Hottentot, I've tried my hand at modding a couple of times, and whilst some games are more open-ended than others, it's still a sod of a task that requires a lot of manpower to put into it, and the closest I've got is the odd badly made map. Therefore, I can only echo the stutterer in thanking YOU the modders, for your time and creations.

09-14-12, 08:31 AM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Still waiting for that Black Pearl mod.