Is this right??

messageboy101 · 07-22-12, 04:24 AM

Look at the picture and what is wrong with my flames

Using SH4 1.4 (waiting for my gold edtion to arrive)
with these mods

PE4 install main
Class_S18_S42_Camo tri
FooBor's PORPOISE HEAVY WTH HI-RES V1.0
Japanese merchants routs v2
Keldunks_RFB.1.52_tweaks_V2
RSRDC_V350_for_V14
RSRDC_V350_Patch1
Sub Class Info - Stock
USS Whale (Gato) HI-RES V1.0

thanks in advance

greets

stanger · 07-22-12, 04:36 AM

No, it's not right. Ive had similar experience with sun being square (not sun halo), but that was after some failed tweaks to scene dat. Does it happen after reloading the game? Too much antialiasing maybe? Or maybe it was common in 1.4 version of the game.

Edit - are you using PE4 final (~september 2008), cause there is a mention of "blocky fire fix" in read me of this mod I have on hdd right now. Should be fixed...

Edit2 - if PE4 guys fixed it I suspect the file "particles.dat" (in Library) was involved, and if RSRD (its old version) overwrites this file (or maybe materials.dat too?) then the fix could be lost.

Hylander_1314 · 07-22-12, 04:54 AM

Check what mod affects the particals.dat, or materials.dat file(s). That is what causes it. I know the Splash Effects mod makes fire do that in FOTRS.

I would try removing PE4 and try the game. But open the files individually and go from there. The sub mods shouldn't be an issue, as they just mod the sub files, and nothing else.

messageboy101 · 07-22-12, 05:08 AM

would it be an option to download PE2
does anybody got a link for that
or should i delete the fire file from PE4 and enable it again

Fish40 · 07-22-12, 05:11 AM

I'm pretty sure Keldunk's tweaks are for 1.5 and not 1.4. Not sure if it would cause that issue though

messageboy101 · 07-22-12, 06:29 AM

keldunks tweaks work and they only do sub smoke and waterstreams
were can i find the fire file in PE4???

stanger · 07-22-12, 10:29 AM

The fire texture (if moded) is in textures folder, but it it controlled (the fire) by particles.dat (and maybe materials.dat) in library folder.
Can you check RSRD version you are using if it has particles.dat and materials.dat too?
I'm not pretending I know how they (PE4 authors) did the fix, if its simply texture edit or dat file edit, but both files from PE4 and RSRD can be compared to see, and edited to made compatible with both mods.

Take a look here too: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=770
(but, unfortunately, links are down too; but still, at least some info)

messageboy101 · 07-22-12, 10:36 AM

thank you
i have downloaded ISE 3
it looks better than PE4

greets

07-22-12, 04:24 AM	#1
messageboy101 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 210 Downloads: 429 Uploads: 0	Is this right?? Look at the picture and what is wrong with my flames Using SH4 1.4 (waiting for my gold edtion to arrive) with these mods PE4 install main Class_S18_S42_Camo tri FooBor's PORPOISE HEAVY WTH HI-RES V1.0 Japanese merchants routs v2 Keldunks_RFB.1.52_tweaks_V2 RSRDC_V350_for_V14 RSRDC_V350_Patch1 Sub Class Info - Stock USS Whale (Gato) HI-RES V1.0 thanks in advance greets

07-22-12, 04:36 AM	#2
stanger Engineer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 200 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	No, it's not right. Ive had similar experience with sun being square (not sun halo), but that was after some failed tweaks to scene dat. Does it happen after reloading the game? Too much antialiasing maybe? Or maybe it was common in 1.4 version of the game. Edit - are you using PE4 final (~september 2008), cause there is a mention of "blocky fire fix" in read me of this mod I have on hdd right now. Should be fixed... Edit2 - if PE4 guys fixed it I suspect the file "particles.dat" (in Library) was involved, and if RSRD (its old version) overwrites this file (or maybe materials.dat too?) then the fix could be lost. Last edited by stanger; 07-22-12 at 04:54 AM.

07-22-12, 04:54 AM	#3
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Check what mod affects the particals.dat, or materials.dat file(s). That is what causes it. I know the Splash Effects mod makes fire do that in FOTRS. I would try removing PE4 and try the game. But open the files individually and go from there. The sub mods shouldn't be an issue, as they just mod the sub files, and nothing else. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

07-22-12, 05:08 AM	#4
messageboy101 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 210 Downloads: 429 Uploads: 0	would it be an option to download PE2 does anybody got a link for that or should i delete the fire file from PE4 and enable it again

07-22-12, 05:11 AM	#5
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	I'm pretty sure Keldunk's tweaks are for 1.5 and not 1.4. Not sure if it would cause that issue though

07-22-12, 06:29 AM	#6
messageboy101 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 210 Downloads: 429 Uploads: 0	keldunks tweaks work and they only do sub smoke and waterstreams were can i find the fire file in PE4???

07-22-12, 10:29 AM	#7
stanger Engineer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 200 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	The fire texture (if moded) is in textures folder, but it it controlled (the fire) by particles.dat (and maybe materials.dat) in library folder. Can you check RSRD version you are using if it has particles.dat and materials.dat too? I'm not pretending I know how they (PE4 authors) did the fix, if its simply texture edit or dat file edit, but both files from PE4 and RSRD can be compared to see, and edited to made compatible with both mods. Take a look here too: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=770 (but, unfortunately, links are down too; but still, at least some info)

07-22-12, 10:36 AM	#8
messageboy101 Engineer Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 210 Downloads: 429 Uploads: 0	thank you i have downloaded ISE 3 it looks better than PE4 greets