Being 'pinged'

Dellinger · 03-10-12, 02:37 PM

Ok, so when you are being pinged by an enemy warship, how exactly do you know you are in the DDs LOS and are appearing on his screen?

For example... I get a: Ping (3 seconds pass, or thereabouts), Ping (3sec.), Ping (3 sec), Ping (3 sec), Ping (very rapid, less than 1 sec between), Ping (<1 sec), Ping (<1 sec), Ping, etc, etc.

I try to keep track of the DD at the hydrophone station so I know his position.

Obviously if he passes from a relative 90 to a relative 270 very quickly he just past above me and probably has a good beed on my position.

I was under the assumption (from previous SH games) that is was lower frequency Ping followed by a rather loud Ping that indicated the DD knew where you were. Not a slower then faster ping.

Some clarity here will help me, thanks!

Sailor Steve · 03-10-12, 05:23 PM

The only way to know for certain is when he starts dropping depth charges. If I hear a destroyer's propellors closing I assume he has me and go to flank speed, full rudder one way or the other (if he's off to one side I turn toward him in the assumption that this will throw his aim off) and dive another 50 feet or so.

I've never paid attention to the frequency or the volume of his pings. I just naturally assume that the game has it wrong.

Armistead · 03-10-12, 05:55 PM

Far from me to know exactly how the game code works, but you will get everything from a soft ping on long scale to a loud ping on short scale, the question remains on the mechanics of it. As far as I know if you're being pinged they do have you, so I assume on long scale they don't have my location down, short scale they seemingly know and make runs. It is possible with the game it's just sound, they have you anyway and it just picks up as they get closer.

I do know it's easier to evade long scale soft pings, if you can get narrow to the ship pinging you often it will go away, very hard to to loose short scale, so maybe it works after all.

Also interesting is how they make runs, the majority of the time they come up your stern, sometimes they come from a flank or front. I have noticed the higher the crew rating the better they seem to hunt, moreso in pairs. I've fought 4-8 escorts I know have elite status because I've edited mine that way. It's fairly easy to flank and outrun stern run, but I've had elite escorts make runs together side by side, others dropping in circles, etc.., it's tough when 2-3 escorts drop in your area the same time.

WernherVonTrapp · 03-10-12, 06:34 PM

Quite some time ago, I was in place (at PD) to ambush a TF in TMO. A DD that I hadn't seen earlier emerged from the distance and was making a bee-line toward me. His speed was commensurate with the rest of the TF so I deduced that he did not see me (night attack). He passed in front if me at about 1500yds. Just prior to this, I started hearing the dreaded ping...ping...ping and thought he detected me. My first inclination was to dive and hightail it out of there. I don't recall why I remained in my position, but I stayed put. Sure enough, despite the pinging, he never turned toward me and continued escorting the TF. Soon after he passed, the pinging ceased. He was the only DD that got close to me during that engagement
I was able to sink a heavy cruiser after the DD had gained enough distance, though he interrupted my attack on a CV. I got away clean

Armistead · 03-10-12, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

Quite some time ago, I was in place (at PD) to ambush a TF in TMO. A DD that I hadn't seen earlier emerged from the distance and was making a bee-line toward me. His speed was commensurate with the rest of the TF so I deduced that he did not see me (night attack). He passed in front if me at about 1500yds. Just prior to this, I started hearing the dreaded ping...ping...ping and thought he detected me. My first inclination was to dive and hightail it out of there. I don't recall why I remained in my position, but I stayed put. Sure enough, despite the pinging, he never turned toward me and continued escorting the TF. Soon after he passed, the pinging ceased. He was the only DD that got close to me during that engagement
I was able to sink a heavy cruiser after the DD had gained enough distance, though he interrupted my attack on a CV. I got away clean

You were on the surface and got pinged? I've never heard of that or that it's even possible, maybe you meant different, but said you thought about diving and hauling arse.

WernherVonTrapp · 03-10-12, 06:52 PM

I never said I was on the surface. "I was in place (at PD)", at periscope depth.

03-10-12, 02:37 PM	#1
Dellinger Seaman Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 31 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Being 'pinged' Ok, so when you are being pinged by an enemy warship, how exactly do you know you are in the DDs LOS and are appearing on his screen? For example... I get a: Ping (3 seconds pass, or thereabouts), Ping (3sec.), Ping (3 sec), Ping (3 sec), Ping (very rapid, less than 1 sec between), Ping (<1 sec), Ping (<1 sec), Ping, etc, etc. I try to keep track of the DD at the hydrophone station so I know his position. Obviously if he passes from a relative 90 to a relative 270 very quickly he just past above me and probably has a good beed on my position. I was under the assumption (from previous SH games) that is was lower frequency Ping followed by a rather loud Ping that indicated the DD knew where you were. Not a slower then faster ping. Some clarity here will help me, thanks!

03-10-12, 05:23 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The only way to know for certain is when he starts dropping depth charges. If I hear a destroyer's propellors closing I assume he has me and go to flank speed, full rudder one way or the other (if he's off to one side I turn toward him in the assumption that this will throw his aim off) and dive another 50 feet or so. I've never paid attention to the frequency or the volume of his pings. I just naturally assume that the game has it wrong. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-10-12, 06:34 PM	#4
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Quite some time ago, I was in place (at PD) to ambush a TF in TMO. A DD that I hadn't seen earlier emerged from the distance and was making a bee-line toward me. His speed was commensurate with the rest of the TF so I deduced that he did not see me (night attack). He passed in front if me at about 1500yds. Just prior to this, I started hearing the dreaded ping...ping...ping and thought he detected me. My first inclination was to dive and hightail it out of there. I don't recall why I remained in my position, but I stayed put. Sure enough, despite the pinging, he never turned toward me and continued escorting the TF. Soon after he passed, the pinging ceased. He was the only DD that got close to me during that engagement I was able to sink a heavy cruiser after the DD had gained enough distance, though he interrupted my attack on a CV. I got away clean __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

03-10-12, 06:52 PM	#6
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	I never said I was on the surface. "I was in place (at PD)", at periscope depth. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

03-10-12, 05:55 PM	#3
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Far from me to know exactly how the game code works, but you will get everything from a soft ping on long scale to a loud ping on short scale, the question remains on the mechanics of it. As far as I know if you're being pinged they do have you, so I assume on long scale they don't have my location down, short scale they seemingly know and make runs. It is possible with the game it's just sound, they have you anyway and it just picks up as they get closer. I do know it's easier to evade long scale soft pings, if you can get narrow to the ship pinging you often it will go away, very hard to to loose short scale, so maybe it works after all. Also interesting is how they make runs, the majority of the time they come up your stern, sometimes they come from a flank or front. I have noticed the higher the crew rating the better they seem to hunt, moreso in pairs. I've fought 4-8 escorts I know have elite status because I've edited mine that way. It's fairly easy to flank and outrun stern run, but I've had elite escorts make runs together side by side, others dropping in circles, etc.., it's tough when 2-3 escorts drop in your area the same time.