Santorum brought home stillborn child...bat**** crazy alert.

[Bubblehead1980]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr17.html

[Oberon]

Aaaah, the US press during the election season...nothing is sacred.

[magicstix]

Oh noes. He brought his stillborn child home to mourn rather than throw him in medical waste disposal like a good godless liberal. What a horrible person he is.

Really? This makes him crazy? Have you ever lost a child?

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Aaaah, the US press during the election season...nothing is sacred.

Well the people need to know about this religious wackjob as he has to be taken seriously for now.I am a Republican and a Conservative(albeit non religious) but this guy is just scary, he is out of his mind.

[magicstix]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Well the people need to know about this religious wackjob as he has to be taken seriously for now.I am a Republican and a Conservative(albeit non religious) but this guy is just scary, he is out of his mind.

I'm sure you have your reasons for thinking so, but attacking him for bringing his dead child home for visitation instead of a funeral home is not in the slightest bit crazy and very much below the belt. You'll have to use some other sensational evidence, IMO.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Well the people need to know about this religious wackjob as he has to be taken seriously for now.I am a Republican and a Conservative(albeit non religious) but this guy is just scary, he is out of his mind.

Strikes me as extremely arrogant and pathetic to criticize how any family grieves for the loss of a child. This is a tough time for any family who's been through the loss of a baby.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Aaaah, the US press during the election season...nothing is sacred.

This. This reporter needs to look up the word "tasteless."

I'm sure you have your reasons for thinking so, but attacking him for bringing his dead child home for visitation instead of a funeral home is not in the slightest bit crazy and very much below the belt.

It's a personal matter, it's nobody's damn business what he does with his child. If that's how his family chose how to mourn, then good for him.

[Kongo Otto]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Apr17.html

Ok but whats the news in about an Washington Post article from 2005?

Wow bubbles, you have really lost it.
Ask around your family, or even your friends if you have any and see how many have had a loss in the same way as these people and how many have acted in exactly the same way.

[Skybird]

"Frist, Lott and McConnell are not as passionate as Rick Santorum," says Sen. Arlen Specter, Santorum's fellow Republican from Pennsylvania. "He takes on more issues that have an emotional component."

A lot of people do, but Santorum creates and attracts more heat. It might be the pride he takes in his agitator's role. Or, simply, that he's an up-and-comer who knows he's an up-and-comer.

(...)

In conversations, Santorum tends to use out-of-favor terms, then correct himself in a way that calls attention to the infraction ("stewardess, or flight attendant, I should say"). "I'm supposed to go to a dinner at the American Indian museum," he says later. "Sorry, the Native American museum. I always mess that up."

Have not seen much of him over here, but what I saw, immediately gave me the imrpession of a person who is calculating how to stage-act best. That is not only not authetic behaviour then, but also means a person that is manipulative and does not reveal to you its real intention. Other parts of the WP story also give me the impression of him doing a lot of stage-acting only.

On the baby issue, I weigh the natural healthiness of doing mourning by a clear mind that allows the sadness being felt, against religious extremism and and the nut mindset of militant irrationalism that the abortion debate accompanies much stronger in the US than here in Europe. Santorum's stillborn maybe was beyond the developement phase before which you may even have problems to recognise that drop of gallert you hold on hour fingertip as something human at all, with 20 weeks, you can recognise a fetus as a human body indeed, and not just symbolically. I will not criticise him on his decision to take the dead body home, therefore. Critical I am of attempts to call every unspecific bunch of cellular mass as a "human" with a personality, a mind, emotions, perceptions, etc etc. . There is too much irrationality in the debate. And much of it comes as a varied consequence from that religious crazy idea of "be fruitful and multiply", man made by the image of a deity (which would be no compliment to the deity then...) and that man shall rule all life and see himself as the crown of creation. Such beliefs of course cause emotional sentiments that are not amongst the most modest there are. In this case, as said I will not criticise Santorum for his decision.

But I question his motives, both regarding the media and the public, and his living children.

To me, Santorum comes across as a great and unscrupulous manipulator, and a blender.

[Takeda Shingen]

I'm going with Bubblehead in saying that I think it is a bit odd too. Sure, he is in mourning, but I wouldn't be bringing the corpse home. I haven't been in his shoes, so I don't know how I would react, but this is just my guy reaction.

[Kongo Otto]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I'm going with Bubblehead in saying that I think it is a bit odd too. Sure, he is in mourning, but I wouldn't be bringing the corpse home. I haven't been in his shoes, so I don't know how I would react, but this is just my guy reaction.

Do you really mean he is still mourning?
After all the posted News link is almost seven years old.

IMHO its far more interesting what the reason was to post a News article from April 2005 in this forum?

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Kongo Otto

Do you really mean he is still mourning?
After all the posted News link is almost seven years old.

IMHO its far more interesting what the reason was to post a News article from April 2005 in this forum?

I meant that he was in mourning at the time. I am also aware that the news was from 2005. If you look to the left of this post, you will see that I live in Pennsylvania, USA. Rick Santorum was my US Senator for two terms. I am familiar with this story, familiar with Santorum and was familiar with it when he talked about it during his 2008 sentatorial campaign. I thought, with your permission of course, that I would sound off with my view.

[Kongo Otto]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I meant that he was in mourning at the time. I am also aware that the news was from 2005. If you look to the left of this post, you will see that I live in Pennsylvania, USA. Rick Santorum was my US Senator for two terms. I am familiar with this story, familiar with Santorum and was familiar with it when he talked about it during his 2008 sentatorial campaign. I thought, with your permission of course, that I would sound off with my view.

Dont missunderstand me, i dont have a problem with the whole story.
Maybe its a bit odd but sometimes people do odd things, whats odd and whats not thats always in the eye of the beholder.

No need to ask me about anykind of permission, i dont have a problem with your view.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Kongo Otto

Dont missunderstand me, i dont have a problem with the whole story.
Maybe its a bit odd but sometimes people do odd things, whats odd and whats not thats always in the eye of the beholder.

No need to ask me about anykind of permission, i dont have a problem with your view.

The story is coming out because he is running for President of the United States. His detractors are trying to use scare tactics. The same thing happens to every candidate when he or she runs. That's American politics for you.