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http://www.space.com/14200-160-billi...ky-galaxy.html
And 2/3 of those stars have Earth-like planets orbiting them. ![]() |
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Eternal Patrol
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And that's just one galaxy out of billions in our universe, then we have physicists believe there are multiple universes. And most of us believe we are the only ones living in this dimension/universes or what ever you want to call it. Selfish much?
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Well there is definitely Extra-terrestrial life out there, even if its exceptionally rare. (Especially to find Extra-terrestial life existing at some level anywhere near us, I suspect most have already passed their time and gone extinct [Terran life has had it's near misses!] or has yet to form)
However, contrary to the beliefs of the History channel, I doubt they have visited Earth. ![]() |
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All assumptions we make about the universe, suns, planets and the distriubutiuojn of life forms, comes as the result of perception and thinking menchnaisms and establioshed working routines that we call human, and "science". But by using our words and methods and approaches, we already have filtered and limited the possible conclusions. Therefore I have become very hesitent to define "life" on the basis of Earthly carbon entities, and to assume we know what is going on out there with other civilisations just because we flatter ourselves by claiming we make educated guesses. We do not even know the deep oceans of our own planet in full!
The simple truth about life out there is: we just don't know, and we do not even have a clue about anything living outside the solar system, it's forms, its motivations. I think quite often that when it comes to the possible forms of alien life, only few people realise the full meaning of the word "alien" and instead antropomorphise without realising it. I once translated a passage of Stanislaw Lem's "Solaris", German translation, for an essay: We start out into cosmos, we are prepared image of our own primitive past. However,for everything, that is the loneliness, the struggle, the martyrdom, death. For modesty’s reason we do not speak it out, but sometimes we believe that we are wonderful. However, that is not all, and our readiness turns out to be just acting. Actually we do not want to conquer all space, we just want to expand Earth up to its’ boundaries! Some planets have to be like a desert like the Sahara, others have to be as icy as the poles, or tropical like the Brazilian jungle. We are humanitarian, and we are noble, we do not want to subjugate other races, we just want to bring them our values, and adopting their inheritance. We think we are the knights of the holy contact. That is the second lie. Humans we do seek, no one else! We do not need other worlds, we need mirrors! We don’t know what to do with other worlds. We want to find our own idealized image; these globes, these civilizations here have to be more perfect than ours, while in others we hope to find the there is something on the other side that we are unable to accept that!”do not accept, against which we fight, and after all it is not only the pure distillate of human virtues that we have brought with us from Earth, the heroic monument of mankind! We have come here like we really are, and if the other side is showing us this truth, this part of it that we hide – then we
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