IL-2:Cliffs of Dover

Bubblehead1980 · 01-04-12, 05:16 PM

I saw the game IL-2 cliffs of dover in best buy, used gift card to purchase it.Seems like could be pretty awseome flight sim but having issues.In the pilot and aircraft selection they refuse to show, its just black but can see the sides.Once I start the game, the screen goes to my desk top but can hear it and if hit controls such as firing the guns, can hear it happening but cant see anything as its on the desktop but cant move mouse of anything until I exit the game via shortcuts or pause menu.

Desktop is barely 4 months old, seems to have the proper specs but not sure.Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Penguin · 01-04-12, 05:55 PM

I don't own the game myself, but this could be a gfx card driver problem.
Besides the obvious, installing the newest driver, you can also try to roll back one ore more driver generations; you can find old stuff at http://www.oldversion.com/

Another possibility could be a faulty RAM. I had this problem that I sometimes had a ctd with an announcement that the driver was restored. I found out that it was my computer's memory. The dealer who sold the RAM bars states he had a return rate of 40% of those certain bars.

So you should also let your comp run memtest overnight.

Bubblehead1980 · 01-04-12, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin

I don't own the game myself, but this could be a gfx card driver problem.
Besides the obvious, installing the newest driver, you can also try to roll back one ore more driver generations; you can find old stuff at http://www.oldversion.com/

Another possibility could be a faulty RAM. I had this problem that I sometimes had a ctd with an announcement that the driver was restored. I found out that it was my computer's memory. The dealer who sold the RAM bars states he had a return rate of 40% of those certain bars.

So you should also let your comp run memtest overnight.

hmm ill check that out.

Video card is an ATI AMD 760G i'm somehwat clueless about video cards, just run a DirextX diagnostic in windows.

Dowly · 01-04-12, 07:48 PM

AFAIK, ATI 760G is a chipset with integrated ATI 3000 graphics.

Which, in other words means: You're not going to be playing IL2:CloD with that I'm afraid.

It's not exactly a GPU mean't for gaming.

0rpheus · 01-04-12, 08:29 PM

Dowly has it, CloD is a massive GPU & CPU hog and is still horribly unoptimised. IL2:1946 would be a better bet for a card like that.

Bubblehead1980 · 01-05-12, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

AFAIK, ATI 760G is a chipset with integrated ATI 3000 graphics.

Which, in other words means: You're not going to be playing IL2:CloD with that I'm afraid.

It's not exactly a GPU mean't for gaming.

I figured that, so what card would you suggest?

seaniam81 · 01-05-12, 04:16 PM

I would suggest a Nvidia 550 Ti. It's a great mid-range card, and it's cheap. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...565&CatId=3669 this is the card I'm using.

Arclight · 01-05-12, 08:02 PM

No offense, but 550 is low-end, not mid-range. Once you go below that you get to the eh... "cheap" cards.

Bubblehead1980 · 01-06-12, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Arclight

No offense, but 550 is low-end, not mid-range. Once you go below that you get to the eh... "cheap" cards.

Whats a card that is worth the investment? That will play COD and pretty much any other current game.

seaniam81 · 01-06-12, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Arclight

No offense, but 550 is low-end, not mid-range. Once you go below that you get to the eh... "cheap" cards.

No offense taken. But the 550Ti is marketed as a mid-range card.

Arclight · 01-06-12, 09:18 PM

There's currently no model sitting below it, apart from the OEM ones. Calling the cheapest card in the 500 series "mid-range" is just false/misleading advertising.

I'd stick with a 460/560, or preferably 560Ti (there's even a special model with 448 cores, with practically makes it a 570). Literally twice card, no worries whether it can handle a game for the next 2-3 years, at least.

But yeah, the things are expensive. Just need to decide how much pretty you want; using a 460 myself and when I install a new game the first thing I do is simply push all the sliders up (keep anti-aliasing at 4x though, 1680x1050), see how it runs. More often than not it runs just peachy, at most you need to dial a few settings back to get it a bit smoother.

There's other things to consider though: specifically what CPU and power supply you have. No point putting in a better graphics card if the rest can't keep up.

elephantium · 01-07-12, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Arclight

false/misleading advertising.

You have a redundancy in your post...

seaniam81 · 01-07-12, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by elephantium

You have a redundancy in your post...

Yes, yes he does. But there is a 520, and 545. I saw them on the shelves besides the 550. But we digress. Best bet if you can find a 460 that's cheap get it! When I got my 550 all the others were another $100 more, and that was out of my price range because I still needed a PSU.

Arclight · 01-07-12, 05:33 AM

There's a 520, yes, but then you're talking entry level. Those things can barely play HD video, let alone run a modern game. For comparison, a GT 520 has 48 cores, a GTX 550 Ti has 192 and a GTX 460/560 has 336 (384 for 560 Ti, making it literally twice the card as the 550 Ti, the GTX imho is really a misnomer). Depending on who you ask, a 460/560 can still be considered low-end (personally I'd say mid-range, with 570 taking high-end and 580 'enthusiast' segments, but you could argue that with the 560 Ti being about, a 460/560 is indeed low-ish for a modern card).

The 545 is an OEM card and shouldn't be on shelves.

And yeah, bit of a redundancy... especially since we're talking Nvidia. How these companies aren't sued into bankruptcy I'll never know.

01-04-12, 05:16 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,103 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	IL-2:Cliffs of Dover I saw the game IL-2 cliffs of dover in best buy, used gift card to purchase it.Seems like could be pretty awseome flight sim but having issues.In the pilot and aircraft selection they refuse to show, its just black but can see the sides.Once I start the game, the screen goes to my desk top but can hear it and if hit controls such as firing the guns, can hear it happening but cant see anything as its on the desktop but cant move mouse of anything until I exit the game via shortcuts or pause menu. Desktop is barely 4 months old, seems to have the proper specs but not sure.Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

01-05-12, 04:16 PM	#7
seaniam81 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 624 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	I would suggest a Nvidia 550 Ti. It's a great mid-range card, and it's cheap. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...565&CatId=3669 this is the card I'm using. __________________ Ultima ratio regum. (The final argument of kings) - Inscription on french cannons, on order of Louis XIV

01-05-12, 08:02 PM	#8
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	No offense, but 550 is low-end, not mid-range. Once you go below that you get to the eh... "cheap" cards. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

01-06-12, 09:18 PM	#11
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	There's currently no model sitting below it, apart from the OEM ones. Calling the cheapest card in the 500 series "mid-range" is just false/misleading advertising. I'd stick with a 460/560, or preferably 560Ti (there's even a special model with 448 cores, with practically makes it a 570). Literally twice card, no worries whether it can handle a game for the next 2-3 years, at least. But yeah, the things are expensive. Just need to decide how much pretty you want; using a 460 myself and when I install a new game the first thing I do is simply push all the sliders up (keep anti-aliasing at 4x though, 1680x1050), see how it runs. More often than not it runs just peachy, at most you need to dial a few settings back to get it a bit smoother. There's other things to consider though: specifically what CPU and power supply you have. No point putting in a better graphics card if the rest can't keep up. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

01-07-12, 05:33 AM	#14
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	There's a 520, yes, but then you're talking entry level. Those things can barely play HD video, let alone run a modern game. For comparison, a GT 520 has 48 cores, a GTX 550 Ti has 192 and a GTX 460/560 has 336 (384 for 560 Ti, making it literally twice the card as the 550 Ti, the GTX imho is really a misnomer). Depending on who you ask, a 460/560 can still be considered low-end (personally I'd say mid-range, with 570 taking high-end and 580 'enthusiast' segments, but you could argue that with the 560 Ti being about, a 460/560 is indeed low-ish for a modern card). The 545 is an OEM card and shouldn't be on shelves. And yeah, bit of a redundancy... especially since we're talking Nvidia. How these companies aren't sued into bankruptcy I'll never know. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

01-04-12, 05:55 PM	#2
Penguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rheinische Republik Posts: 3,322 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	I don't own the game myself, but this could be a gfx card driver problem. Besides the obvious, installing the newest driver, you can also try to roll back one ore more driver generations; you can find old stuff at http://www.oldversion.com/ Another possibility could be a faulty RAM. I had this problem that I sometimes had a ctd with an announcement that the driver was restored. I found out that it was my computer's memory. The dealer who sold the RAM bars states he had a return rate of 40% of those certain bars. So you should also let your comp run memtest overnight.

01-04-12, 07:48 PM	#4
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	AFAIK, ATI 760G is a chipset with integrated ATI 3000 graphics. Which, in other words means: You're not going to be playing IL2:CloD with that I'm afraid. It's not exactly a GPU mean't for gaming.

01-04-12, 08:29 PM	#5
0rpheus Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: UK Posts: 857 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 3	Dowly has it, CloD is a massive GPU & CPU hog and is still horribly unoptimised. IL2:1946 would be a better bet for a card like that.