Florida teen detained by TSA for design on her purse

vienna · 12-03-11, 01:57 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...221835034.html

This is really one of those "Really??" moments that makes people question the sanity, if any, of the people charged with our security...

Sailor Steve · 12-03-11, 03:45 PM

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Just imagine what would have happened if Gibbs had also been wearing stiletto heels.

Or a bomber jacket.

Looks like I picked the right sig for the month.

Platapus · 12-03-11, 04:09 PM

The TSA definitely needs some adult oversight. How could anyone consider a leather embossed design of a gun on a purse as a "replica weapon"?

Really, no on-duty supervisor looked at this and could have made a decision?

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TSA officers seem to have the authority decide to fist some 6-year old girl if they feel like it but no one at TSA has the authority to look at an embossed design?

The terrorists are still winning folks.

vienna · 12-03-11, 04:20 PM

I think part of the idiocy of the TSA (and other such governmental entities) is the unwillingness to admit they have basically "screwed up". They do something stupid and then, realizing that it makes them look like the east end of a west-facing jackass, they try to mitigate the error by escalating the situation hoping, perhaps, they might stumble on something able to justify their original error. It's the of inability such agencies to cut their losses that makes such situations a major irritation to the victims of such actions and causes embarassment and lack of respect for the agencies. The TSA agent screws up, the supervisor is afraid the screw-up will reflect badly on his/her ability to manage properly and so the TSA seeks to justify the original error by trying to make the traveller look like the "guilty" party...

kraznyi_oktjabr · 12-03-11, 04:24 PM

TSA has lack of work again?

Btw on another forum one lady summarized TSA's entry (intelligence) requirements as "being few fries short of Happy Meal".

Platapus · 12-03-11, 04:34 PM

It is too bad that judgement is not a criteria for being a TSA supervisor. The shift supervisor who reviewed this action needs to be severely reprimanded or even fired for lack of judgement.

And people wonder why the TSA screeners don't carry weapons. Could you imagine these people with guns?

soopaman2 · 12-03-11, 05:50 PM

Beauracracy at it's finest. Yet a symptom of a larger problem.

I hear alot about deregulate the EPA and stuff from certain senators, but no one wants to deregulate these guys.

Ignore the arab and grope granny. Ignore the lady in a burqa and go through your kids diaper.

The requirements to work there are low as well. Maybe I will dredge up a list of bad moves by the TSA since it's induction, and how it is complicit in the American plot to take away our liberties.

Oh, but your paranoid....

Nope.

The patriot act caused this crap.

More terrorist acts after 9-11 were thwarted by passengers than the TSA.

But it is a great money sinkhole for the government, while we prepare to starve the elderly, with "cuts"

Pitchforks and lynch mobs are the only thing that will save us.

Men fight for freedom, then they begin to accumulate laws to take it away from themselves. ~Author Unknown

vienna · 12-03-11, 05:53 PM

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And people wonder why the TSA screeners don't carry weapons. Could you imagine these people with guns?

nikimcbee · 12-04-11, 11:23 AM

All I needed to see was:
Florida

Teen

TSA

That's all you really need to know, the story just writes itself at that point.

nikimcbee · 12-04-11, 11:29 AM

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Shouldn't be any flaming because that is against the forum rules...good honest debate and I personally find this thread interesting.

okay, I'll do it.

Damn bears fan!

(proceeds to throw bottle at Misha, but hits Steed

instead, then quietly slips out of thread.)

Jimbuna · 12-04-11, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

okay, I'll do it.

Damn bears fan!

(proceeds to throw bottle at Misha, but hits Steed

instead, then quietly slips out of thread.)

Back in ya kennel...bonny lad

12-04-11, 03:00 PM

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Comparing experiences here with experiences elsewhere is, to my mind, is in this case irrelevant.

Comparing them with US experiences since sept 11th would be relevant, so would travel between here and the UK during the sillyness, so would flying on ElAl for decades, or for that matter flying on any of the other middle eastern airlines.

Krauter · 12-04-11, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

The TSA may have overreacted but the individual may have been better advised to carry an item with a different logo considering the location.

Just my two cents.

However, the issue I find here is that she stated she had no previous issues while flying to her destination with the same purse. If it wasn't an issue going there why should it be coming back?

1480 · 12-04-11, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

okay, I'll do it.

Damn bears fan!

(proceeds to throw bottle at Misha, but hits Steed

instead, then quietly slips out of thread.)

Oh Pasha, shouldn't you be counting trees?

12-03-11, 01:57 PM	#1
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Florida teen detained by TSA for design on her purse http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...221835034.html This is really one of those "Really??" moments that makes people question the sanity, if any, of the people charged with our security...

12-03-11, 04:09 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	The TSA definitely needs some adult oversight. How could anyone consider a leather embossed design of a gun on a purse as a "replica weapon"? Really, no on-duty supervisor looked at this and could have made a decision? . TSA officers seem to have the authority decide to fist some 6-year old girl if they feel like it but no one at TSA has the authority to look at an embossed design? The terrorists are still winning folks. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

12-03-11, 04:24 PM	#5
kraznyi_oktjabr Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Republiken Finland Posts: 1,803 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	TSA has lack of work again? Btw on another forum one lady summarized TSA's entry (intelligence) requirements as "being few fries short of Happy Meal". __________________ You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic. - Dr. House

12-03-11, 04:34 PM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It is too bad that judgement is not a criteria for being a TSA supervisor. The shift supervisor who reviewed this action needs to be severely reprimanded or even fired for lack of judgement. And people wonder why the TSA screeners don't carry weapons. Could you imagine these people with guns? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

12-03-11, 05:50 PM	#7
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Beauracracy at it's finest. Yet a symptom of a larger problem. I hear alot about deregulate the EPA and stuff from certain senators, but no one wants to deregulate these guys. Ignore the arab and grope granny. Ignore the lady in a burqa and go through your kids diaper. The requirements to work there are low as well. Maybe I will dredge up a list of bad moves by the TSA since it's induction, and how it is complicit in the American plot to take away our liberties. Oh, but your paranoid.... Nope. The patriot act caused this crap. More terrorist acts after 9-11 were thwarted by passengers than the TSA. But it is a great money sinkhole for the government, while we prepare to starve the elderly, with "cuts" Pitchforks and lynch mobs are the only thing that will save us. Men fight for freedom, then they begin to accumulate laws to take it away from themselves. ~Author Unknown __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

12-03-11, 04:20 PM	#4
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I think part of the idiocy of the TSA (and other such governmental entities) is the unwillingness to admit they have basically "screwed up". They do something stupid and then, realizing that it makes them look like the east end of a west-facing jackass, they try to mitigate the error by escalating the situation hoping, perhaps, they might stumble on something able to justify their original error. It's the of inability such agencies to cut their losses that makes such situations a major irritation to the victims of such actions and causes embarassment and lack of respect for the agencies. The TSA agent screws up, the supervisor is afraid the screw-up will reflect badly on his/her ability to manage properly and so the TSA seeks to justify the original error by trying to make the traveller look like the "guilty" party...

12-04-11, 11:23 AM	#9
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	All I needed to see was: Florida Teen TSA That's all you really need to know, the story just writes itself at that point. __________________