Israeli killed, three wounded in 'accidental' IDF West Bank shooting

Gerald · 11-11-11, 04:16 AM

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...oting-1.394947

Note: Latest update 08:47 11.11.11

MH · 11-11-11, 04:54 AM

...not first time and probably not the last....another sad accident.

Gerald · 11-11-11, 06:49 AM

That kind of events can really get unrest in the region, it is still there...

Jimbuna · 11-11-11, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MH

...not first time and probably not the last....another sad accident.

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Moments later, a Palestinian truck struck one of IDF soldier who fired the shots, and was standing by the side of the road near the scene of the shooting. The soldier suffered light to moderate injuries.

I shouldn't imagine that was an accident

Sammi79 · 11-11-11, 07:14 AM

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Moments later, a Palestinian truck struck one of IDF soldier who fired the shots, and was standing by the side of the road near the scene of the shooting. The soldier suffered light to moderate injuries.

If it had been quicker it might have saved a life. I wonder why the car did not stop. Very sad indeed.

11-11-11, 07:16 AM

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I wonder why the car did not stop.

Maybe he was a terrorist and didn't like the IDF.

MH · 11-11-11, 07:30 AM

maybe ...or maybe not....

It looks like classic mishap....all answers are in the article.
WB don't exactly share London driving habits specially in darkness.

Sammi79 · 11-11-11, 07:45 AM

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IDF forces came out of the observation tower, but did not manage to set up a checkpoint in time, and so they signaled to the vehicle to stop.

Ah I missed that bit, so there was no checkpoint actually setup, I think the poor Rabbi could be forgiven for not realising he was meant to stop at a 'soon to be but not quite' checkpoint. What was the given signal I wander? If it was dark and the soldier was not standing visibly in front of the car in the beams of its headlights, how would he have known to stop?

CaptainHaplo · 11-11-11, 07:53 AM

Sammi - while it does not state what the "signal" was, its more important to note that the soldier who fired violated the ROE according to the article.

Its sad - and I find it ironic that from one perspective, it was a Palestinian who came to the aid of an Israeli against the IDF.

You have the occasional loose cannon - but we also don't know all the facts. Its hard to judge a person's view and intent - especially in what is (or in this case - what they think is) a possible combat situation.

This is a perfect example of why ROE's are often more restrictive than what the guy at the bottom of the chain thinks is appropriate. Sometimes ROE's cost lives when they are followed - in this case, not following it cost at least 2 lives - one dead and one ruined, with 2 more harmed.

Ducimus · 11-11-11, 12:59 PM

BTW, I love the word Accidental in quotes. Giving the ads around here, I wouldn't expect much sympathy to the palstines. LOL

1480 · 11-12-11, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

BTW, I love the word Accidental in quotes. Giving the ads around here, I wouldn't expect much sympathy to the palstines. LOL

Wow talk about kismet.....

Sailor Steve · 11-12-11, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 1480

Wow talk about kismet.....

Not at all. The ads have a bot that associates them with the thread you're reading.

11-11-11, 04:16 AM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Israeli killed, three wounded in 'accidental' IDF West Bank shooting http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...oting-1.394947 Note: Latest update 08:47 11.11.11 __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-11-11, 06:49 AM	#3
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	That kind of events can really get unrest in the region, it is still there... __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

11-11-11, 07:53 AM	#9
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Sammi - while it does not state what the "signal" was, its more important to note that the soldier who fired violated the ROE according to the article. Its sad - and I find it ironic that from one perspective, it was a Palestinian who came to the aid of an Israeli against the IDF. You have the occasional loose cannon - but we also don't know all the facts. Its hard to judge a person's view and intent - especially in what is (or in this case - what they think is) a possible combat situation. This is a perfect example of why ROE's are often more restrictive than what the guy at the bottom of the chain thinks is appropriate. Sometimes ROE's cost lives when they are followed - in this case, not following it cost at least 2 lives - one dead and one ruined, with 2 more harmed. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

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MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	...not first time and probably not the last....another sad accident.

11-11-11, 07:30 AM	#7
MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	maybe ...or maybe not.... It looks like classic mishap....all answers are in the article. WB don't exactly share London driving habits specially in darkness.

11-11-11, 12:59 PM	#10
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	BTW, I love the word Accidental in quotes. Giving the ads around here, I wouldn't expect much sympathy to the palstines. LOL