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Old 11-02-11, 09:40 AM   #1
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Wikileaks' Julian Assange loses extradition appeal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15549985



Note: 2 November 2011 Last updated at 12:18 GMT
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Old 11-02-11, 10:09 AM   #2
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Old 11-02-11, 10:35 AM   #3
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Well,He will appeal the decision but I guess he will be extradited, and then the truth emerges.
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Good he can be subjected to trial to either bring justice to the victim, or exonerate the man. He can afford a good defense I am sure.

The mood so far treats him like a hero. I see different. I see an informational terrorist who endangered troops.

And in older times, his buddy PFC Manning woulda been hung from the neck for treason, but the PC patrol has taken America over.
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What was that phrase again..... One who lives in a glass house should not be throwing stones, or something to that effect? I think that applies to "Mr Transparency".
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Good he can be subjected to trial to either bring justice to the victim, or exonerate the man. He can afford a good defense I am sure.

The mood so far treats him like a hero. I see different. I see an informational terrorist who endangered troops.

And in older times, his buddy PFC Manning woulda been hung from the neck for treason, but the PC patrol has taken America over.
So it may be, many of his "former friends" are no longer at his side, and he will need quite a lot of help if he will survive this time.
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Old 11-02-11, 11:25 AM   #7
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I guess it doesn't pay to be the one to say the emperor has no clothes...
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The mood so far treats him like a hero. I see different. I see an informational terrorist who endangered troops.

And in older times, his buddy PFC Manning woulda been hung from the neck for treason, but the PC patrol has taken America over.
If I had my way, Julian would be biting a pillow in prison, and Manning would be wearing a hemp necktie.
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I see an informational terrorist who endangered troops.
Could you elaborate on how you think he endangered troops?
It was a common line when the story broke but it was a line that everyone seemed to back away from when pushed as to how it was endangering troops.
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Old 11-02-11, 12:03 PM   #10
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I can't say I'm suprised....must be feeling rather lonely right now...interesting times ahead though I suspect.
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Could you elaborate on how you think he endangered troops?
It was a common line when the story broke but it was a line that everyone seemed to back away from when pushed as to how it was endangering troops.

It's called "OpSec", or Operational Security. Even seemingly innocuous information can give an enemy wanted intel. This can range from what units are stationed where, what they do, to standard operating procedures. A tid bit here, or there and you can piece together a bigger picture.

The bottom line is the more you know about an enemy, the better you can draw together plans to act against him, or to counter his movements and tactics.

OpSec is common knowledge to anyone in the military.
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So it may be, many of his "former friends" are no longer at his side, and he will need quite a lot of help if he will survive this time.

Don't get me wrong. I am not one to call him guilty based on accusations alone. I also understand countries wanting to cornhole him unjustly.

I do not know how Swedish trials work, but I am sure it will be fair, as long as protocol is followed.

His document leaking thing? I am more angry at the people who gave them to him. I just wish he thought about other things than smearing certain countries, before publishing it.
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If he has nothing to hide and is 100% innocent then why has he be in & out of British courts so many times now?
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rape charge is rape charge, and wikileaks is wikileaks

ducimus, get over it. it will just stress you out.
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It's called "OpSec", or Operational Security. Even seemingly innocuous information can give an enemy wanted intel. This can range from what units are stationed where, what they do, to standard operating procedures. A tid bit here, or there and you can piece together a bigger picture.

The bottom line is the more you know about an enemy, the better you can draw together plans to act against him, or to counter his movements and tactics.

OpSec is common knowledge to anyone in the military.
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Loose lips sink ships. Just saying you saw American soldiers at (whatever pub) in Britain before D-day could have jeapordized the operation.

His "activism" is a detriment to people just doing their jobs, more than the people he wishes to hurt. (being the elites, who start this stuff)
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