Palestinians get Unesco seat as 107 vote in favour

_dgn_ · 10-31-11, 11:44 AM

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Unesco general conference president Katalin Bogyay announced the result

The UN cultural organisation has voted strongly in favour of membership for the Palestinians - a move opposed by Israel and the United States.

Of 173 countries voting, 107 were in favour, 14 opposed and 52 abstained.

The UN Security Council will vote next month on whether to grant the Palestinians full UN membership.

Yes, 14 countries were against, including :

- Germany
- Sweden
- Czech Republic
- Australia
- Canada
- United States
- Israël

Remember their name !!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15518173

Jimbuna · 10-31-11, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by _dgn_

Yes, 14 countries were against, including :

- Germany
- Sweden
- Czech Republic
- Australia
- Canada
- United States
- Israël

Remember their name !!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15518173

May I ask why?

_dgn_ · 10-31-11, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

May I ask why?

In order to boycott their products, I think !!!

soopaman2 · 10-31-11, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by _dgn_

Yes, 14 countries were against, including :

- Germany
- Sweden
- Czech Republic
- Australia
- Canada
- United States
- Israël

Remember their name !!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15518173

You expected different?

USA is Isreals daddy, Canada does the minimum to keep America happy. (kinda like putting up with your neighbors loud music, because he is a nice guy and always loans you his lawnmower)
Kinda a bond between GBs proud and noble offspring, I guess

I'm surprised Britain isn't on there. Israel was there idea, we are just stuck with the bill.

Euros are just closer to it, and don't try to be politically correct, like we do.

Seriously what good can come from it. All I see are American corpses 20 years down the line.

_dgn_ · 10-31-11, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

You expected different?

No !

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

USA is Isreals daddy

Not exactly. Israel is the brain, USA the powerful body. Or another image : Israel on the US shoulders ...

soopaman2 · 10-31-11, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by _dgn_

No !

Not exactly. Israel is the brain, USA the powerful body. Or another image : Israel on the US shoulders ...

I can't disagree as world events don't allow any proof to the contrary.

Sailor Steve · 10-31-11, 12:29 PM

Personally I think I'll boycott the countries that voted for it.

Jimbuna · 10-31-11, 12:39 PM

So are the Palestinians going to replace the 20% loss of funding if the US withdraws their financial support?

MH · 10-31-11, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by _dgn_

In order to boycott their products, I think !!!

YEAH!!!

soopaman2 · 10-31-11, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Personally I think I'll boycott the countries that voted for it.

I am kinda conflicted. Is that possible?

Deep down, as much as i hate the whole modern crusade stuff.

I feel it would only give some kind of legitimacy to them disrupting the Isaelis. Even rallying "jihadists" from other countries to help. (I think I agree)

They (Israel) are there, they are happy, they are prospering the arabs feel it is some kinda "crusade" thing IMHO.

At the same time, who are we to question their legitimacy? They got the worlds attention.

But being a skeptic
Was this decision made to protect Israel?
I think that was the major function of it, and as much as I dislike the culture, I will say I feel a certain compassion towards them, and how their humanity is minimized due to the zealots that lead them. (the Palistinians)

The whole thing is frustrating to me, I just wish I can figure out which party is the "agressors". Both sides hands are filthy with blood.

Maybe I am just jaded, thinking people can be tolerant of other beliefs. We can't even do that here in America.

_dgn_ · 10-31-11, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

So are the Palestinians going to replace the 20% loss of funding if the US withdraws their financial support?

The usual blackmail : if you are not with me, I will punish you ... No more money !!!

Sailor Steve · 10-31-11, 01:22 PM

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I am kinda conflicted. Is that possible?

Don't know, don't care. I was tweaking the other guys. The Palestinians never wanted autonomy under the Jordanians. This thing started with Arafat, and I believe it really is just one more way to "get Israel".

That said, I have less problems with Israel or the Palestinians as I do with all the outsiders, us included, who feel the need to interfere. The UN is a joke, and this is one of their funniest.

Penguin · 10-31-11, 01:24 PM

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In order to boycott their products, I think !!!

So do you also boycott countries in which Palestinians have no citizen's rights, like Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, etc, basically all Arab countries?

Or is it because of minority rights? - where is the Basque state?
because of state terrorism? - who did sink the Rainbow warrior again?
Because of the suppression and unjustified killing of civilians? Algeria War?

Yes, let's boycott France!

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No !
Not exactly. Israel is the brain, USA the powerful body. Or another image : Israel on the US shoulders ...

As I stated here in my reply to soopaman: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=92
Israel does a lousy job in controlling the US, at least in UN resolutions about Palestine:
To relief you of the trouble to click the links, here are they again:
List of resolutions against Israel: http://www.regelsberger.at/privatarchiv/Israel_UN.html
List of Security Council Resolutions on Palestine:
http://www.un.int/wcm/content/site/p...once/pid/11886

funny, all these would not have passed if the USA didn't vote for it or at least stayed neutral

So can you elaborate how Israel controls the USA?

Hottentot · 10-31-11, 02:01 PM

That was a costly vote for Unesco, says the Daily Mail (and various other news sources as well, but this was the first English source I found).

Funny. I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand I understand the decision is based on the law and it's their money, so they can do whatever they please with it. On the other hand it sounds like a "you voted wrong" situation. When you alone hold 22% of some organisation's funding, you also automatically hold some power over it, like it or not. I hope it doesn't come down to seeing exactly how much power that is.

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So can you elaborate how Israel controls the USA?

Trough the drinking water. Duh.

August · 10-31-11, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Personally I think I'll boycott the countries that voted for it.

That'd be France. Now you remember that name...

But now that I think of it does France actually export anything?

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