Rick Perry under fire on Republican debate debut

Gerald · 09-08-11, 06:58 AM

Rick Perry: "Anyone that is involved in the status quo with regards to social security today is involved in a monstrous lie to our kids and it's not right"

Rivals for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012 have faced off in a debate at the Reagan Presidential Library in California.

Texas Governor Rick Perry, new to the debate cast, sparred with ex-Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney over their records on job-creation.

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann reprised her belief that President Obama's healthcare policy was a "job-killer".

And Mr Perry called the US pension pot, Social Security, a "ponzi scheme".

As well as the three leading contenders, former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, businessman Herman Cain, Congressman Ron Paul, former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich and ex-Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum also took part.

The debate is one of three scheduled in the coming weeks, and analysts say the Republican field is likely to thin out in the coming months. The 2012 primary season is not expected to begin until February.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14831124

Note: 8 September 2011 Last updated at 02:54 GMT

Tchocky · 09-08-11, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor

And Mr Perry called the US pension pot, Social Security, a "ponzi scheme".

http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/20...onomic-growth/

Quote:

But neither Social Security nor being mildly over-optimistic about your stock picks is a “Ponzi scheme.” A Ponzi scheme is a fraud where in the end the whole pyramid goes bust a bunch of people wind up with no money at all. The absolute only reason Social Security could ever go bust like that would be if elected officials decided they wanted to stop paying benefits.

The more I see of Perry, the less I like.

Platapus · 09-08-11, 04:32 PM

Watched it. Saw nothing that would inspire me to vote for any of them.

I hope the GOP can get a good story going. They need it.

CaptainMattJ. · 09-10-11, 01:26 AM

I dont think i could bring myself to vote for anyone this election.

Obama has just kinda.....sat there. i dont see us going anywhere with him again. But if for whatever reason i was forced into a decision, id gladly vote for obama over any of these nutjobs.

I cant ponder how low perry could sink us into the ground. Bachman has no chance, but its scary to think how fast she could destroy any ground we've gained.

CCIP · 09-10-11, 01:30 AM

Yeap, at this rate it honestly looks to me like Obama has his 2nd term in the bag. Which is a shame because he's not done much of anything to deserve it.

Sailor Steve · 09-10-11, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

Yeap, at this rate it honestly looks to me like Obama has his 2nd term in the bag. Which is a shame because he's not done much of anything to deserve it.

But that is so much the usual state of affairs in American politics. A great many presidents got a second term simply because the opposition couldn't come up with anyone better. Of course several one-term presidents were replaced by someone equally as bad, so it evens out. Everyone rises to their own level of mediocrity.

Jimbuna · 09-10-11, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

Yeap, at this rate it honestly looks to me like Obama has his 2nd term in the bag. Which is a shame because he's not done much of anything to deserve it.

I honestly wish we had a similar political system in the UK...two parliamentary terms and your out.

In some cases one

ZeeWolf · 09-10-11, 01:38 PM

Hey! where is all the wailing about "conspiracy" from you guys?

I like Perry, he'll make a great Republican. And a typical Rep. President.

Gerald · 09-10-11, 09:52 PM

A funny thing happened at the Republican debate at the Reagan Library in California on Wednesday night, when the evening’s co-moderator Brian Williams asked a question of Gov. Rick Perry of Texas. (Not funny ha-ha, funny peculiar.) Let’s go right to the video.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...me&ref=general

Note. Update Record,September 9, 2011, 7:15 pm

mookiemookie · 09-10-11, 10:03 PM

Absolutely disgusting. 10 seconds of research on the death penalty shows that innocent people have died because of it. And the son of a...working lady....knew that and still sent people to their death. And these animals applaud it.

09-08-11, 06:58 AM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Rick Perry under fire on Republican debate debut Rick Perry: "Anyone that is involved in the status quo with regards to social security today is involved in a monstrous lie to our kids and it's not right" Rivals for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012 have faced off in a debate at the Reagan Presidential Library in California. Texas Governor Rick Perry, new to the debate cast, sparred with ex-Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney over their records on job-creation. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann reprised her belief that President Obama's healthcare policy was a "job-killer". And Mr Perry called the US pension pot, Social Security, a "ponzi scheme". As well as the three leading contenders, former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, businessman Herman Cain, Congressman Ron Paul, former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich and ex-Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum also took part. The debate is one of three scheduled in the coming weeks, and analysts say the Republican field is likely to thin out in the coming months. The 2012 primary season is not expected to begin until February. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14831124 Note: 8 September 2011 Last updated at 02:54 GMT __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

09-08-11, 04:32 PM	#3
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Watched it. Saw nothing that would inspire me to vote for any of them. I hope the GOP can get a good story going. They need it. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

09-10-11, 01:26 AM	#4
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	I dont think i could bring myself to vote for anyone this election. Obama has just kinda.....sat there. i dont see us going anywhere with him again. But if for whatever reason i was forced into a decision, id gladly vote for obama over any of these nutjobs. I cant ponder how low perry could sink us into the ground. Bachman has no chance, but its scary to think how fast she could destroy any ground we've gained. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

09-10-11, 01:30 AM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yeap, at this rate it honestly looks to me like Obama has his 2nd term in the bag. Which is a shame because he's not done much of anything to deserve it. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

09-10-11, 09:52 PM	#9
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	They Messed With Texas! A funny thing happened at the Republican debate at the Reagan Library in California on Wednesday night, when the evening’s co-moderator Brian Williams asked a question of Gov. Rick Perry of Texas. (Not funny ha-ha, funny peculiar.) Let’s go right to the video. http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...me&ref=general Note. Update Record,September 9, 2011, 7:15 pm __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

09-10-11, 01:38 PM	#8
ZeeWolf Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Great NorthWest Posts: 1,724 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 1	Hey! where is all the wailing about "conspiracy" from you guys? I like Perry, he'll make a great Republican. And a typical Rep. President.

09-10-11, 10:03 PM	#10
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Absolutely disgusting. 10 seconds of research on the death penalty shows that innocent people have died because of it. And the son of a...working lady....knew that and still sent people to their death. And these animals applaud it. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.