Resetting hull integrity in the middle of a patrol?

Luno · 03-19-12, 04:53 PM

Hi Kaleuns,

Once again, I must call upon your help (I feel like I'm beginning to spam by asking all of these questions, but the search isn't always helpful).

I just got back into port the other day and discovered my HI was 40%. This was a bit of a shock as I didn't really give aircraft much of a chance to attack my boat. As far as I could tell, the DC's exploded far away. On another patrol when I was, well, bolder, and remained surfaced to attack, I returned with 95% HI.

However, I'm thinking I lost a bunch of HI points when I spawned in after a loading a save. As soon as the loading was finished, my boat was already rocking such that if I was standing perfectly vertical, my nose would be touching the deck! Glass was breaking, and the lights went out. It was as if I had spawned some meters in the air, and was simply dropped into the sea, bending my boat, and depleting HI.

So, if something like this happens, I don't want that to kill me right there, or reduce the chance of survival when I do encounter an escort.

Now to the point: Is there a way to check and reset HI in the middle of a patrol? How do I avoid the spawn bug?

Thanks, and as always, happy hunting.

Mittelwaechter · 03-19-12, 07:23 PM

If you took damage and save you'll see the breaking glass sequence after reloading to remind you of your damage.
That's no bug.

By default (Stock SH3) the HI indicator is visible at the crew screen showing your HI in percent any time. There are several different mods that hide this info. If you run SH3 Commander you should be able to check a box for toggling this feature on/off. You can't reset the hull damage in the middle of a patrol. You would have to dock in a friendly port or at a milk cow.

Luno · 03-19-12, 07:34 PM

Then I guess those bombs were closer than I thought...

Thanks!

sharkbit · 03-19-12, 08:32 PM

With some things, Silent Hunter is a game of extremes and hull integrity is one of them(map contacts on/off is another but I won't get into that).

With HI indicator turned on, it gives you an exact reading of how badly damaged your hull is. There was no gauge like that inany submarine,

With the HI indicator turned off with SH3Commander, now you have no idea how badly damaged your hull is, when any Chief Engineer can at least give his captain an idea how badly damaged his sub is.

There really isn't any middle ground except that an awesome modder named h.sie made a mod called "Colored Hull Integrity Indicator" that changes the percentage into one of four colors depending how badly you're damaged. Now there is at least a little mystery, but you at least have an idea of how you stand in the integrity department without knowing the exact percentage.

Luno · 03-19-12, 10:24 PM

Yup, I know about that one

I just have to get into port again, lol. Thanks for the tip.

EDIT - just installed it.

PappyCain · 03-20-12, 11:34 AM

I read my hull integrity in percentage points in SH3 Commander ... when it reaches below 75% I know I need to rectify or return to port as an engagement can be treacherous starting with that much damage to my hull (immerision pucker factor). A deep dive could implode my boat ... when 100% could meet max depth design specs. (immerision pucker factor).

If I can get to a milch cow I have found when reloading the sim, my hull has been repaired to 100% again as well as fuel, eels, and candy for the crew.

Sailor Steve · 03-20-12, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PappyCain

If I can get to a milch cow I have found when reloading the sim, my hull has been repaired to 100% again as well as fuel, eels, and candy for the crew.

And that's one of the problems with the game. A milk cow should give you enough fuel to get home, two torpedoes for protection while getting there and should make no repairs you can't make yourself. A surface supply ship should be able to do a little more, but not much.

bigboywooly · 03-20-12, 12:17 PM

Using h.sies exe fix and Steiblers addon I get 4 torps max and a % of fuel from a milch though still does repair damage

andwii · 03-20-12, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And that's one of the problems with the game. A milk cow should give you enough fuel to get home, two torpedoes for protection while getting there and should make no repairs you can't make yourself. A surface supply ship should be able to do a little more, but not much.

any idea if milk cows carried some equipment on board to repair minor things (like messed up parts that just need replaced)? I was just wondering that if lets say a depth charged screwed up the stern propellor or something they would have a few spares to throw on.

PappyCain · 03-20-12, 01:01 PM

In real life a sub tender (USN) would effect machine shop type repairs. The milch cow as Sailor Steve remarked typically was for restocking although temp repairs made on the sub by milch cow crew may be enhanced by their additional quals to effect permenant repair (in my immersion dreams). I speak to light repair items U488 helps me with. I had a picture frame with Helga's picture repaired by them

http://uboat.net/types/milkcows.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Type_XIV_submarine

http://rmhh.co.uk/files/Slaughter%20of%20the%20Milk%20Cows.pdf

PappyCain · 03-23-12, 03:22 PM

Sailor Steve · 03-23-12, 06:32 PM

Nice frame.

03-19-12, 04:53 PM	#1
Luno Ensign Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 234 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Resetting hull integrity in the middle of a patrol? Hi Kaleuns, Once again, I must call upon your help (I feel like I'm beginning to spam by asking all of these questions, but the search isn't always helpful). I just got back into port the other day and discovered my HI was 40%. This was a bit of a shock as I didn't really give aircraft much of a chance to attack my boat. As far as I could tell, the DC's exploded far away. On another patrol when I was, well, bolder, and remained surfaced to attack, I returned with 95% HI. However, I'm thinking I lost a bunch of HI points when I spawned in after a loading a save. As soon as the loading was finished, my boat was already rocking such that if I was standing perfectly vertical, my nose would be touching the deck! Glass was breaking, and the lights went out. It was as if I had spawned some meters in the air, and was simply dropped into the sea, bending my boat, and depleting HI. So, if something like this happens, I don't want that to kill me right there, or reduce the chance of survival when I do encounter an escort. Now to the point: Is there a way to check and reset HI in the middle of a patrol? How do I avoid the spawn bug? Thanks, and as always, happy hunting. __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost.

03-19-12, 07:23 PM	#2
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	If you took damage and save you'll see the breaking glass sequence after reloading to remind you of your damage. That's no bug. By default (Stock SH3) the HI indicator is visible at the crew screen showing your HI in percent any time. There are several different mods that hide this info. If you run SH3 Commander you should be able to check a box for toggling this feature on/off. You can't reset the hull damage in the middle of a patrol. You would have to dock in a friendly port or at a milk cow. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

03-19-12, 07:34 PM	#3
Luno Ensign Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 234 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Then I guess those bombs were closer than I thought... Thanks! __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost.

03-19-12, 08:32 PM	#4
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	With some things, Silent Hunter is a game of extremes and hull integrity is one of them(map contacts on/off is another but I won't get into that). With HI indicator turned on, it gives you an exact reading of how badly damaged your hull is. There was no gauge like that inany submarine, With the HI indicator turned off with SH3Commander, now you have no idea how badly damaged your hull is, when any Chief Engineer can at least give his captain an idea how badly damaged his sub is. There really isn't any middle ground except that an awesome modder named h.sie made a mod called "Colored Hull Integrity Indicator" that changes the percentage into one of four colors depending how badly you're damaged. Now there is at least a little mystery, but you at least have an idea of how you stand in the integrity department without knowing the exact percentage. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

03-19-12, 10:24 PM	#5
Luno Ensign Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 234 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Yup, I know about that one I just have to get into port again, lol. Thanks for the tip. EDIT - just installed it. __________________ Career: Feb. 13, 1942 "Cpt. Johny Goodwood" Porpoise class: USS Shark, SS-174 Patrols: 2 Victories: 1 Merchants (4519 GRT), 0 Warships (0 GRT), 0 Aircraft Sunk with all hands lost. Last edited by Luno; 03-20-12 at 01:47 AM.

03-20-12, 11:34 AM	#6
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I read my hull integrity in percentage points in SH3 Commander ... when it reaches below 75% I know I need to rectify or return to port as an engagement can be treacherous starting with that much damage to my hull (immerision pucker factor). A deep dive could implode my boat ... when 100% could meet max depth design specs. (immerision pucker factor). If I can get to a milch cow I have found when reloading the sim, my hull has been repaired to 100% again as well as fuel, eels, and candy for the crew. __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

03-20-12, 12:17 PM	#8
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Using h.sies exe fix and Steiblers addon I get 4 torps max and a % of fuel from a milch though still does repair damage __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

03-20-12, 01:01 PM	#10
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In real life a sub tender (USN) would effect machine shop type repairs. The milch cow as Sailor Steve remarked typically was for restocking although temp repairs made on the sub by milch cow crew may be enhanced by their additional quals to effect permenant repair (in my immersion dreams). I speak to light repair items U488 helps me with. I had a picture frame with Helga's picture repaired by them http://uboat.net/types/milkcows.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Type_XIV_submarine http://rmhh.co.uk/files/Slaughter%20of%20the%20Milk%20Cows.pdf __________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html Last edited by PappyCain; 03-20-12 at 03:08 PM.

03-23-12, 03:22 PM	#11
PappyCain Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: on the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 559 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	__________________ DID, no cheats, no shortcuts, no non-historic equipment deviations. Boat and crew safety is integral with my immersion style! Follow the historic events during your patrol: http://www.uboat.net/today.html

03-23-12, 06:32 PM	#12
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Nice frame. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo