Oh Boy - This One Is Above My Pay Grade

Anthony W. · 05-09-11, 04:55 PM

In all my careers, I haven't been involved in any warship engagements - other than escorted convoys.

Well - it's finally happening. I've ran smack dab into the Battle of the Philippine Sea - and I've already been spotted.

I'm currently at 450ft below the surface, sneaking by destroyers.

It looks like I'll be forced to launch with no visual contact.

I couldn't manage to approach from the front like I wanted to (big guns started lobbing 16 inchers at me from a few miles out), so as for tactics I'm at a loss.

Any suggestions?

WernherVonTrapp · 05-09-11, 06:05 PM

Well, hopefully the seas are rough. That will help mask your getaway or approach. I would try to gain some perspective of their course and speed and then come up to PD and sink the closest target with the highest probability of success. The fact that they caught you off guard means you're going to have to make due with your current ambush position, leaving you some, but little other choice.

Be ready to stay submerged for a while, depending on your current location, since there are 3 separate TFs that will be approaching and then departing the area. If you have to, you can actually back away from a target using either "back slow" or "back standard". This maintains your boats blading relative to the TF and any approaching DDs. I've also found that it seems a little harder for the DDs to hear you when you back away, as opposed to turning around, which you can do later anyway when sufficient distance is gained.
Good luck sir.

magic452 · 05-09-11, 07:57 PM

If you've gained a reasonably good position Werneher's advice is good.
If the TF is zig zagging than you may be able to do a runaround and get a better position.

As far as backing out goes I do this any time I use the bow tubes.
Since you can't use the Knotometer to set reverse speeds I have set Back 1/3 to 1 knot, Back 2/3 to 3 knots. Works like a charm.

Magic

Platapus · 05-10-11, 05:52 AM

Surface and use your deck guns.

It will be the last thing they would expect and you would have the element of surprise.

Seriously, good luck and please let us know how your attack goes.

Anthony W. · 05-10-11, 06:59 AM

Theres a heavy cruiser passing overhead - it doesn't look like the destroyers know where I am - so I don't know if its a coincidence or what. Heres hoping for no depth charges

Daniel Prates · 05-10-11, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

Surface and use your deck guns.

It will be the last thing they would expect and you would have the element of surprise.

Seriously, good luck and please let us know how your attack goes.

haha! Great!

Its just like the tiny little schnauzer that engaged a rottwailer in combat. The schauzer actually won, chocking the bigger dog to death... while being eaten.

Platapus · 05-10-11, 06:02 PM

I did not say my "plan" was perfect.

commandosolo2009 · 05-23-11, 09:01 AM

retire, and plot their resumption course. then a few hours later, if they are below 21 knots, you may catch up.

Armistead · 05-23-11, 09:16 AM

With TMO the Yamato will blast you with all guns as will all the large warships.

Daniel Prates · 05-23-11, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

With TMO the Yamato will blast you with all guns as will all the large warships.

Funny, I see the turrets turning towards me, but not shooting. Only secondary guns do shoot.

05-09-11, 04:55 PM	#1
Anthony W. Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 850 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Oh Boy - This One Is Above My Pay Grade In all my careers, I haven't been involved in any warship engagements - other than escorted convoys. Well - it's finally happening. I've ran smack dab into the Battle of the Philippine Sea - and I've already been spotted. I'm currently at 450ft below the surface, sneaking by destroyers. It looks like I'll be forced to launch with no visual contact. I couldn't manage to approach from the front like I wanted to (big guns started lobbing 16 inchers at me from a few miles out), so as for tactics I'm at a loss. Any suggestions? __________________ Sunken Mustangs Proud Ford Mustang owner "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" - Admiral David Farragut Run silent - run deep - keep the baffles clear - targets front and center. Private pilot and history buff

05-09-11, 06:05 PM	#2
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Well, hopefully the seas are rough. That will help mask your getaway or approach. I would try to gain some perspective of their course and speed and then come up to PD and sink the closest target with the highest probability of success. The fact that they caught you off guard means you're going to have to make due with your current ambush position, leaving you some, but little other choice. Be ready to stay submerged for a while, depending on your current location, since there are 3 separate TFs that will be approaching and then departing the area. If you have to, you can actually back away from a target using either "back slow" or "back standard". This maintains your boats blading relative to the TF and any approaching DDs. I've also found that it seems a little harder for the DDs to hear you when you back away, as opposed to turning around, which you can do later anyway when sufficient distance is gained. Good luck sir. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

05-09-11, 07:57 PM	#3
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	If you've gained a reasonably good position Werneher's advice is good. If the TF is zig zagging than you may be able to do a runaround and get a better position. As far as backing out goes I do this any time I use the bow tubes. Since you can't use the Knotometer to set reverse speeds I have set Back 1/3 to 1 knot, Back 2/3 to 3 knots. Works like a charm. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

05-10-11, 05:52 AM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Surface and use your deck guns. It will be the last thing they would expect and you would have the element of surprise. Seriously, good luck and please let us know how your attack goes. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

05-10-11, 06:59 AM	#5
Anthony W. Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 850 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Theres a heavy cruiser passing overhead - it doesn't look like the destroyers know where I am - so I don't know if its a coincidence or what. Heres hoping for no depth charges __________________ Sunken Mustangs Proud Ford Mustang owner "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" - Admiral David Farragut Run silent - run deep - keep the baffles clear - targets front and center. Private pilot and history buff

05-10-11, 06:02 PM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I did not say my "plan" was perfect. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

05-23-11, 09:01 AM	#8
commandosolo2009 Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 840 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	retire, and plot their resumption course. then a few hours later, if they are below 21 knots, you may catch up. __________________ x.com/lexatnews

05-23-11, 09:16 AM	#9
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	With TMO the Yamato will blast you with all guns as will all the large warships.