U.S Troops land in Greece 4 Libya buildup

[yubba]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...ps-libya_N.htm some one lied, no ground troops or was that flip flopped ssooo hard too tell any more. And by the way who's flippin the bill for this forwray.

[Gerald]

Excellent, with a possible political or military strategic decision.

[Jimbuna]

400 is nowhere near enough and therefore IMHO not a significant number.

If we see those numbers rise to 4000 or so then it may be the beginning of something more probable.

I really can't see the Americans getting involved in another ground war at the present time.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

400 is nowhere near enough and therefore IMHO not a significant number.

Look at the Battle of Mogadishu, 160 "UN Troops" (mostly US) killed between 1000-3000 "Enemy combatants" (Militia etc).

400 US Marines could do a lot of damage to the Libyan army right now if we were willing to use them.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Look at the Battle of Mogadishu, 160 "UN Troops" (mostly US) killed between 1000-3000 "Enemy combatants" (Militia etc).

400 US Marines could do a lot of damage to the Libyan army right now if we were willing to use them.

Something tells me most of the damage would be done to the creditials of the US. These Marines are for training and perhaps the odd scout for air bombardment.

[Gerald]

It all seems to result in the land troops, from the UN but it is hardly a dream situation currently, but a breakthrough must come soon, now bombed Misurata apparently by Libyan Aircraft

[Platapus]

Oh if Obama puts in ground troops into Libya there won't be a fan big enough to handle the crap that hits it.

[Skybird]

Mogadishu does not cmpasre, there it was a civil population with rifles that went on ram page, it were clan fighters, smugglers, gangster, at best irregular militias. There was no "line army", no conventional C3I.

Gaddhafi uses mercenaries which are trained and for African standards to parts rate as elite units. So I see them as army units, not just some wild clansmen. They have shown to be capable to adopt to NATO airstrike tactics, and by doing so avoiding them. They have a functional command hierarchy, and while blind in the air they are most liekjly capable of gaining intel on the ground. Parts of them are said to be presidential guards from I think it was Angola - well trained elite units. This is no wild mob like in Mogadishu.

400 is enough to launch a small and limited commando operation: quickly in, get some job done, and out. Wheter that kind of missions are part of the MEUs' curriculum, I cannot assess for sure, to me it sounds more like something done by special forces. It is not enough to engage in a ground war when a lasting participation is being planned.

I could imagine that Obama wanted an option to take a harbour or a dock for a while to get ships out, and then withdraing again.

However, I stick to what I thought from the start of the Lybian civil war - airstrikes, intel, training and CAS yes, ground troops and modern weapon deliveries no. Training is a priority on my list.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Look at the Battle of Mogadishu, 160 "UN Troops" (mostly US) killed between 1000-3000 "Enemy combatants" (Militia etc).

400 US Marines could do a lot of damage to the Libyan army right now if we were willing to use them.

Very doubtful....the Libyan army is far better equipped, armed and organised.

Originally Posted by Platapus

Oh if Obama puts in ground troops into Libya there won't be a fan big enough to handle the crap that hits it.

I do agree.

[yubba]

Oh, like the media is going too say anything about it, I stumbled across this by acceident checking on the Eygptian troop movements in the Sinya{synia} Desert. That might be a cause for concern. So,, who loves Obama ?? the media does..

[Gerald]

No Obama like the media, so public opinion is blowing in his direction, he has said that he does not endorse any land subsidence

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by yubba

And by the way who's flippin the bill for this forwray.

Rosie the Riveter sez Buy War Bonds.

Oh, like the media is going too say anything about it

Yeah , if the media was going to say anything then you could just start a topic with a media article about it....but that ain't gonna happen is it.
But look on the bright side USAToday had to hunt really hard for some media coverage of the hidden secret story as Associated Press doesn't syndicate its articles worldwide so it is very fortunate you stumbled across it.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Skybird

400 is enough to launch a small and limited commando operation: quickly in, get some job done, and out. Wheter that kind of missions are part of the MEUs' curriculum, I cannot assess for sure, to me it sounds more like something done by special forces. It is not enough to engage in a ground war when a lasting participation is being planned.

I could imagine that Obama wanted an option to take a harbour or a dock for a while to get ships out, and then withdraing again.

However, I stick to what I thought from the start of the Lybian civil war - airstrikes, intel, training and CAS yes, ground troops and modern weapon deliveries no. Training is a priority on my list.

Or it's about the right number for a signifcant advisory effort to train and assist organisation of the mostly civilian rebel forces. Which will it be I wonder?

[yubba]

Watched ABC nightly news just as I figured, Libya didn't even get an honorable mention. So did the Marines invade Greece, the world may never know........??????/