I'm living in a mental asylum

Skybird · 05-06-11, 09:16 AM

A German judge has filed a case against chancellor Merkel. Merkel said during a press conference that she was delighted by the success of the operation that klilled Bin Laden. For this, she already has taken much fire from leftists, socialists, her own party, and the churches. The judge now filed a case on basis of §140 of the German penalty law code that prohibits rewarding or approving criminal deeds against the law.

Merkel gets misquoted all the time with having said that she was delighted by the death of Bin Laden. What she in fact has said is that she way delighted that the operation was successfull that brought an end to Bin Laden.

It should be clear what she said, and how she meant it. But not so to the German Gutmenschen. Polls say that a majority group here does not like the killing of BL, and wanted a cliniclly clean arrest and court etc etc.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...angezeigt.html

Thought police in action again. Not only hjave you to speak and behave politcally correctly, you even have to think and feel politically correctly. And you even have to love it, you subversive racist anti-social islamophobic white supremacist German Nazi, you!

Since monday, its all discussions here in Germany how international law and legitimate legal interests of Bin Laden have been violated, and precious ally Pakistan has been offended. Germans live in a dream world, and our decadence level is amongst the most advanced in the West, increasing rapidly.

Looking for my vomitting bin.

It'S life in a mental asylum over here. And the worst of the lunatics have the helm.

Happy Times · 05-06-11, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

A German judge has filed a case against chancellor Merkel. Merkel said during a press conference that she was delighted by the success of the operation that klilled Bin Laden. For this, she already has taken much fire from leftists, socialists, her own party, and the churches. The judge now filed a case on basis of §140 of the German penalty law code that prohibits rewarding or approving criminal deeds against the law.

Merkel gets misquoted all the time with having said that she was delighted by the death of Bin Laden. What she in fact has said is that she way delighted that the operation was successfull that brought an end to Bin Laden.

It should be clear what she said, and how she meant it. But not so to the German Gutmenschen. Polls say that a majority group here does not like the killing of BL, and wanted a cliniclly clean arrest and court etc etc.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...angezeigt.html

Thought police in action again. Not only hjave you to speak and behave politcally correctly, you even have to think and feel politically correctly. And you even have to love it, you subversive racist anti-social islamophobic white supremacist German Nazi, you!

Since monday, its all discussions here in Germany how international law and legitimate legal interests of Bin Laden have been violated, and precious ally Pakistan has been offended. Germans live in a dream world, and our decadence level is amongst the most advanced in the West, increasing rapidly.

Looking for my vomitting bin.

It'S life in a mental asylum over here. And the worst of the lunatics have the helm.

Hah, the same here.

Allready politicians and professors have voiced their protests against the killing and American public reactions to it.

August · 05-06-11, 09:36 AM

Now you know why so few people in this country pay attention to what Europeans are saying.

UnderseaLcpl · 05-06-11, 09:38 AM

And people say the slippery-slope argument against leftist political philosophy has no basis in reality.

Herr-Berbunch · 05-06-11, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

It should be clear what she said, and how she meant it. But not so to the German Gutmenschen. Polls say that a majority group here does not like the killing of BL, and wanted a cliniclly clean arrest and court etc etc.

A clean arrest, and full judicial process? And who was to pay the millions it would cost to host such a trial, nevermind the money it would cost to hold him safe and securely - to all the raving lefty socialist-types in Germany, how big is your deficit?

AVGWarhawk · 05-06-11, 09:57 AM

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I'm living in a mental asylum

Yes, we all call the asylum by several names:

Earth
World
Mud ball

claybirdd · 05-06-11, 10:04 AM

Bin Laden had his arrest,arrangement,trial,sentancing, and exection all in the time it takes a 5.56 round to travel across a room.

Catfish · 05-06-11, 10:25 AM

Some say a proper punishment would have been to arrest him alive, and let him pass the airports security checks a hundred times a day, until the end of his life

the_tyrant · 05-06-11, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Some say a proper punishment would have been to arrest him alive, and let him pass the airports security checks a hundred times a day, until the end of his life

thats just too inhumane

DarkFish · 05-06-11, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Now you know why so few people in this country pay attention to what Europeans are saying.

Yeah, because Skybirds' text is so objectively written

I don't know what Merkel said, but I don't believe Skybirds word on it. If whatever she said is against the law, she should be punished. If not, she will be acquitted.

I'm glad Osama is dead. He's the worst of the worst and death is probably a well deserved sentence (and that while I'm against the death penalty). I don't agree however with the way in which he was killed. America labels him as a terrorist, and suddenly they think they have the right to invade a country and assassinate someone without even notifying the government. No matter who that someone is, this is just wrong. What if Pakistan decided US citizen Mr. John Doe is a terrorist, and sent a death squad? Would that be justified?
And also, he should have been brought to trial. You are part of the West, you're supposed to be civilized. That means you shouldn't just kill people without trial. By doing things like that you merely lower yourselves to the level of Al Qaeda and the taliban and the like.

Happy Times · 05-06-11, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish

Yeah, because Skybirds' text is so objectively written

I don't know what Merkel said, but I don't believe Skybirds word on it. If whatever she said is against the law, she should be punished. If not, she will be acquitted.

I'm glad Osama is dead. He's the worst of the worst and death is probably a well deserved sentence (and that while I'm against the death penalty). I don't agree however with the way in which he was killed. America labels him as a terrorist, and suddenly they think they have the right to invade a country and assassinate someone without even notifying the government. No matter who that someone is, this is just wrong. What if Pakistan decided US citizen Mr. John Doe is a terrorist, and sent a death squad? Would that be justified?
And also, he should have been brought to trial. You are part of the West, you're supposed to be civilized. That means you shouldn't just kill people without trial. By doing things like that you merely lower yourselves to the level of Al Qaeda and the taliban and the like.

Notify Pakistan?

Pakistan sends death squads all the time, Afganistan, India, Europe..

I really trust the situational judgment of the SEALs more than yours.

August · 05-06-11, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFish

What if Pakistan decided US citizen Mr. John Doe is a terrorist, and sent a death squad? Would that be justified?

If a foreigner (bin Laden was not Pakistani) named John Doe, had deliberately targeted and killed over three thousand Pakistani civilians, then made videos bragging about it, and was constantly planning to kill even more Pakistani civilians while living right under the nose of the US government?

Then i'd say the US would have no real justification for complaining that someone else was forced to wipe our noses for us.

Edit: and what HT says...

Schroeder · 05-06-11, 10:52 AM

@ Darkfish
I've my doubts the raiding squad would have found bin Laden in that house if the the Pakistani government had been informed before the action took place.

*Edit*
Seems I was too slow.

Dan D · 05-06-11, 11:22 AM

Germany is a Christian country. Religious representatives have criticised Merkel for her celebratory response to the killing of Osama Bin Laden because from a Christian point of view you do not celebrate the death of another person.

I would not call a German catholic military bishop or a member of the central committee of German Catholics, people who have criticised Merkel for her statement, lefty-socialist types. It is more likely that those peope vote the conservative Christ-Democrats.

The complaint against Merkel raises the question whether Merkel's celebratory response is a criminal act under German law and not whether the killing of Osama Bin Laden was justified under International law.

The answer to the question if the killing of Osama Bin Laden was illegal or not you wont find in a German code of law.

frau kaleun · 05-06-11, 12:15 PM

I also would have preferred to see Bin Laden arrested, brought back to the US in shackles, and tried and convicted in a court of law.

However there was never a snowball's chance in hell that he would allow himself to be taken alive, so that was not going to happen, period. I'm not gonna shed any tears over it.

05-06-11, 09:16 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,603 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I'm living in a mental asylum A German judge has filed a case against chancellor Merkel. Merkel said during a press conference that she was delighted by the success of the operation that klilled Bin Laden. For this, she already has taken much fire from leftists, socialists, her own party, and the churches. The judge now filed a case on basis of §140 of the German penalty law code that prohibits rewarding or approving criminal deeds against the law. Merkel gets misquoted all the time with having said that she was delighted by the death of Bin Laden. What she in fact has said is that she way delighted that the operation was successfull that brought an end to Bin Laden. It should be clear what she said, and how she meant it. But not so to the German Gutmenschen. Polls say that a majority group here does not like the killing of BL, and wanted a cliniclly clean arrest and court etc etc. http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...angezeigt.html Thought police in action again. Not only hjave you to speak and behave politcally correctly, you even have to think and feel politically correctly. And you even have to love it, you subversive racist anti-social islamophobic white supremacist German Nazi, you! Since monday, its all discussions here in Germany how international law and legitimate legal interests of Bin Laden have been violated, and precious ally Pakistan has been offended. Germans live in a dream world, and our decadence level is amongst the most advanced in the West, increasing rapidly. Looking for my vomitting bin. It'S life in a mental asylum over here. And the worst of the lunatics have the helm. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Now you know why so few people in this country pay attention to what Europeans are saying. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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claybirdd Frogman Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pulaski Tennessee Posts: 290 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Bin Laden had his arrest,arrangement,trial,sentancing, and exection all in the time it takes a 5.56 round to travel across a room. __________________ If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, you did very poor planning.

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Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	@ Darkfish I've my doubts the raiding squad would have found bin Laden in that house if the the Pakistani government had been informed before the action took place. Edit Seems I was too slow. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany. Last edited by Schroeder; 05-06-11 at 12:54 PM.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,765 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Some say a proper punishment would have been to arrest him alive, and let him pass the airports security checks a hundred times a day, until the end of his life

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Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Germany is a Christian country. Religious representatives have criticised Merkel for her celebratory response to the killing of Osama Bin Laden because from a Christian point of view you do not celebrate the death of another person. I would not call a German catholic military bishop or a member of the central committee of German Catholics, people who have criticised Merkel for her statement, lefty-socialist types. It is more likely that those peope vote the conservative Christ-Democrats. The complaint against Merkel raises the question whether Merkel's celebratory response is a criminal act under German law and not whether the killing of Osama Bin Laden was justified under International law. The answer to the question if the killing of Osama Bin Laden was illegal or not you wont find in a German code of law. __________________

05-06-11, 12:15 PM	#15
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I also would have preferred to see Bin Laden arrested, brought back to the US in shackles, and tried and convicted in a court of law. However there was never a snowball's chance in hell that he would allow himself to be taken alive, so that was not going to happen, period. I'm not gonna shed any tears over it.