Europe as Middle Earth. (For you LOTR fans).

Feuer Frei! · 04-06-11, 01:51 AM

I've thought of something.
What about this:

Gondor---Northern Italy/Austria/Slovenia/western Slovakia
Harandor--- (Southern Gondor)--Southern Italy/Sicily
Rohan---Germany/Switzerland/eastern France
Umbar---Morocco
Near Harad---Egypt/Libya
Far Harad---Sub-Saharan Africa
The Bay of Belfalas---The Meditteranean Sea
The Sea of Rhun---The Black Sea
Khand---Turkey
Dunlad--Denmark
Rhun---Russia
The Misty Mountains---Mountain range in Norway/Sweden
The Iron Hills---The Ural Mountains
The Grey Havens---Ireland
Brandywine River---The Thames River
The Anduin--- Most of Europe's rivers run east/west and not north/south.
The Shire/Bree---England
Arnor---The British Isles
Amon Sul---Scotland!! It should be further west.
Rivendell--Trondheim, Norway
Carrock--Umea, Sweden
Moria---West Gate (Bergen) East Gate (Oslo)
Trollshaws---The Faroe Islands
Mirkwood---Primarily Finland
Dol Goldur---Malmo, Sweden. The Necromancer could represent Malmo's huge and violent Muslim minority.
Erebor---Murmansk, Russia
Esgaroth/Lake Men of Dale---Arkhangelsk, Russia
The Long Lake---The White Sea
The River Running---The Volga River
The White Moutains---The Alps
Emyn Muil---The Lusatian Mountains
Helm's Deep---Zurich, Switzerland
Dunharrow---Bern, Switzerland
Edoras---Munich, Germany
Minas Tirith---Vienna, Austria
Isengard---Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Osgiliath---Bratislava, Slovakia
Mordor---Hungary/Northern Romania/Western Ukraine
Minas Morgul---Budapest.

Baradur---Debrecen, Hungary
Mt. Doom---Uzhhorod, Ukaine
Ered Lithui/Ash Mountains---The Carpathians

The Silmarillion

The Blue Mountains--Have been replaced as a natural barrier by the Atlantic Ocean
Dorthonion---Iceland
Gondolin---Reykjavík
Hithlum---Greenland
Ice Bay of Forochel---Arctic Ocean
Anfauglith---The Norwegian Sea
The ruins of Angband---Svalbard

Here a map, looks just like Europe, England, France, Ireland, Spain and Italy are all clearly seen:

Tolkien probably did look at a map when making Middle Earth.
Middle Earth is supposed to be a mythological pre-history of Europe.

Thoughts?

Torplexed · 04-06-11, 02:35 AM

Does this make the Americas Valinor? Could explain all the cheap elvish labor in the country lately.

Betonov · 04-06-11, 06:01 AM

Blast, I'm right between Gondor and Mordor

Feuer Frei! · 04-06-11, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov

Blast, I'm right between Gondor and Mordor

Feuer Frei! · 04-06-11, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Does this make the Americas Valinor? Could explain all the cheap elvish labor in the country lately.

Not sure, but, North America represents the Undying Lands.
Back on-topic, i missed a few:

Numenor is Bermuda,
Pelenor is Hainburg, Austria,
Cirith Ungol is Jazbereny, Hungary,
The watch tower at Amon Hen is Dresden, Germany,
The Dead Marshes is Prague, Czech Republic, and
The Pirate Port in Harad is Algiers, Algeria.

Oberon · 04-06-11, 06:43 AM

Proudfeet!

Torplexed · 04-06-11, 06:48 AM

From looking where Rohan roughly is is I guess they decided to switch from horses and cavalry to Mercedes and BWM.

Feuer Frei! · 04-06-11, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torplexed

From looking where Rohan roughly is is I guess they decided to switch from horses and cavalry to Mercedes and BWM.

Yes, they've come a long way!

DarkFish · 04-06-11, 08:21 AM

Well, it certainly could be. Tolkien did base large parts of LOTR on Germanic mythology.

PS, Isengard isn't really located on the place of Amsterdam

I'd say it's probably more like where Kiel is.

Weiss Pinguin · 04-06-11, 08:56 AM

"One does simply... walk into Hungary/Northern Romania/Western Ukraine!"

Bakkels · 04-06-11, 08:59 AM

People of Gondor, protect your daughters, for I am your king!

Chad · 04-06-11, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov

Blast, I'm right between Gondor and Mordor

You would be in Osgillliath.

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Osgiliath

--No this is a pretty good comparison. Better than many I've seen. I'm a pretty big LOTR fan so this makes me happy

jimbob · 04-06-11, 10:56 AM

Mirkwood, land of about a thousand lake.
No wait....

Betonov · 04-06-11, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad

You would be in Osgillliath.

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Osgiliath

--No this is a pretty good comparison. Better than many I've seen. I'm a pretty big LOTR fan so this makes me happy

Yep, you're right. That's definately our economy on those screens.

Onkel Neal · 04-06-11, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakkels

People of Gondor, protect your daughters, for I am your king!

Hahah!!

04-06-11, 01:51 AM	#1
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Europe as Middle Earth. (For you LOTR fans). I've thought of something. What about this: Gondor---Northern Italy/Austria/Slovenia/western Slovakia Harandor--- (Southern Gondor)--Southern Italy/Sicily Rohan---Germany/Switzerland/eastern France Umbar---Morocco Near Harad---Egypt/Libya Far Harad---Sub-Saharan Africa The Bay of Belfalas---The Meditteranean Sea The Sea of Rhun---The Black Sea Khand---Turkey Dunlad--Denmark Rhun---Russia The Misty Mountains---Mountain range in Norway/Sweden The Iron Hills---The Ural Mountains The Grey Havens---Ireland Brandywine River---The Thames River The Anduin--- Most of Europe's rivers run east/west and not north/south. The Shire/Bree---England Arnor---The British Isles Amon Sul---Scotland!! It should be further west. Rivendell--Trondheim, Norway Carrock--Umea, Sweden Moria---West Gate (Bergen) East Gate (Oslo) Trollshaws---The Faroe Islands Mirkwood---Primarily Finland Dol Goldur---Malmo, Sweden. The Necromancer could represent Malmo's huge and violent Muslim minority. Erebor---Murmansk, Russia Esgaroth/Lake Men of Dale---Arkhangelsk, Russia The Long Lake---The White Sea The River Running---The Volga River The White Moutains---The Alps Emyn Muil---The Lusatian Mountains Helm's Deep---Zurich, Switzerland Dunharrow---Bern, Switzerland Edoras---Munich, Germany Minas Tirith---Vienna, Austria Isengard---Amsterdam, The Netherlands Osgiliath---Bratislava, Slovakia Mordor---Hungary/Northern Romania/Western Ukraine Minas Morgul---Budapest. Baradur---Debrecen, Hungary Mt. Doom---Uzhhorod, Ukaine Ered Lithui/Ash Mountains---The Carpathians The Silmarillion The Blue Mountains--Have been replaced as a natural barrier by the Atlantic Ocean Dorthonion---Iceland Gondolin---Reykjavík Hithlum---Greenland Ice Bay of Forochel---Arctic Ocean Anfauglith---The Norwegian Sea The ruins of Angband---Svalbard Here a map, looks just like Europe, England, France, Ireland, Spain and Italy are all clearly seen: Tolkien probably did look at a map when making Middle Earth. Middle Earth is supposed to be a mythological pre-history of Europe. Thoughts? __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

04-06-11, 02:35 AM	#2
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Does this make the Americas Valinor? Could explain all the cheap elvish labor in the country lately. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

04-06-11, 06:48 AM	#7
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	From looking where Rohan roughly is is I guess they decided to switch from horses and cavalry to Mercedes and BWM. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

04-06-11, 08:21 AM	#9
DarkFish Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stinking drunk in Eindhoven, the Netherlands Posts: 1,844 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Well, it certainly could be. Tolkien did base large parts of LOTR on Germanic mythology. PS, Isengard isn't really located on the place of Amsterdam I'd say it's probably more like where Kiel is. __________________

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Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	"One does simply... walk into Hungary/Northern Romania/Western Ukraine!" __________________

04-06-11, 06:01 AM	#3
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Blast, I'm right between Gondor and Mordor

04-06-11, 06:43 AM	#6
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Bakkels Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 709 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 6	People of Gondor, protect your daughters, for I am your king! __________________ My sh3 skins : http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/Bakkels Or go to the sh3 downloads section > skins

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jimbob Ensign Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suomi Finland Posts: 225 Downloads: 365 Uploads: 6	Mirkwood, land of about a thousand lake. No wait....