Horrible 7~10FPS inside the sub

bboycero · 02-24-11, 08:43 AM

Ohaithar.

I have:
Intel i3 Core (2cores 4threads) 2.4GHz CPU
nVidia GeForce 310m 512mb with 16 CUDA cores
3GB of DDR3 RAM

At all lowest possible settings, the game lags horribly in the sub and even outside of it. In it I can hardly get 9 to 10 fps and outside 12. On the navigation plot 17 although it has 150fps on the main menu.

Halp?

stoianm · 02-24-11, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bboycero

Ohaithar.

I have:
Intel i3 Core (2cores 4threads) 2.4GHz CPU
nVidia GeForce 310m 512mb with 16 CUDA cores
3GB of DDR3 RAM

At all lowest possible settings, the game lags horribly in the sub and even outside of it. In it I can hardly get 9 to 10 fps and outside 12. On the navigation plot 17 although it has 150fps on the main menu.

Halp?

What mods do you use - and what settings you have made in video gamme settings - and what os you use?

bboycero · 02-24-11, 08:48 AM

No mods. The game is patched to v1.2.0. OS is windows 7 32bit.

Resolution 1024x768. Particles Density and everything else on lowest possible. Vertical Sync off as well as everything else on the right side of the graphics options section. Gamma is a bit over half, but that's the brightness of the screen, doubt that that's affecting the performance lawl.

stoianm · 02-24-11, 09:07 AM

Strange - so you do not have any mods - resolution is low? antialiasing zero, particle density very low, shadows zero, vert sinc of and you can not play?

strange - i think maybe sober can help you

but anyway read some things related to the os 32 bit and try the antilag

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Here is something to try for those of you having CTDs or using 32 bit OS:

Try this only if you have at least 2 GByte of RAM and at your own risk and using Vista/Win7 32 bit version.
First download the explorer from http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php
Next make a backup copy of SH5.exe. Then start "CFF Explorer" and open the orginal SH5.exe file.
Now go to NT Header/File Header and click File Header. There you will find a button labeld "click here". Click it and select the mark at "App can handle> 2gb adressest "
Save the modified EXE, overwrite the orginal one (You do have your backup of it in a safe location right?).
If you run Windows Vista 64 or Windows XP 64 or Win7 64 you're ready and didnt need to read on. The rest is only for Windows Vista 32/Win7 32 or maybe Windows XP.
Now make Windows Vista/Win7 (32-Bit) ready to support more than 2 GByte.
Open a command prompt with Administration rights. You find it under "Programs->Accessories->Command prompt" click right and select "run as administrator".
Enter "bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVA 3072" (without quotes) in the command window and press enter.
After that restart windows

To reset back to 2GB limit:
to reset the Increased User Adressspace just start the commandline prompt with Admin right again and enter "bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVA 2048"

See if the above helps at all

Another idea is to install previous version of DirectX ( < v11). I have Win7 64bit but ALWAYS install previous DirectX versions for compatibility reasons. Go to Microsoft's website and search for DirectX. Run the DirectX web installer from their website. You can have DirectX9 AND DirectX11 installed on Win7.

EDIT:

just checked the sh5.exe file and it's large address aware so enabling the 3GB switch in 32bit OSs should help:

Microsoft (R) COFF/PE Dumper Version 9.00.30729.01
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Dump of file sh5.exe
PE signature found
File Type: EXECUTABLE IMAGE
FILE HEADER VALUES
14C machine (x86)
5 number of sections
4BCE9A96 time date stamp Wed Apr 21 01:26:30 2010
0 file pointer to symbol table
0 number of symbols
E0 size of optional header
122 characteristics
Executable
Application can handle large (>2GB) addresses
32 bit word machine

And i forgot to ask you if you modified something in your Nvidia control panel and what drv you use for your card?

Try to install antilag also:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=2871

Zedi · 02-24-11, 09:28 AM

GeForce 310m is not a gamming card. Its oke for a laptop and play games on low details, but not for a resource sucker as SH5 is. Consider upgrading the card if you wanna play SH5 and have a better visual performance.

TheDarkWraith · 02-24-11, 09:34 AM

310m is a non-upgradeable card IIRC. He would need to purchase a whole new laptop. The m designates mobile, aka laptop card.

I have a 360m in my Toshiba Qosmio laptop and it runs SH5 just fine.

bboycero · 02-24-11, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoianm

And i forgot to ask you if you modified something in your Nvidia control panel and what drv you use for your card?

Try to install antilag also:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=2871

In the nvidia CP everything is configured for best performance and that I have set the rendered frames limit to 1. That antilag doesn't help. The thingy u posted doesn't help either.

And of course 360m is running smoothly as it has 96 CUDA cores lawl.

Pintea · 02-24-11, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

310m is a non-upgradeable card IIRC. He would need to purchase a whole new laptop. The m designates mobile, aka laptop card.

I have a 360m in my Toshiba Qosmio laptop and it runs SH5 just fine.

Just to check, are shadows off as well ?

mobucks · 02-24-11, 11:10 AM

sometimes when i get horrible FPS, it fixes itself by alt-tabbing out of the game and back in. Make sure youre surfaced if you try that otherwise o2 will bug.

bboycero · 02-25-11, 09:04 AM

Shadows off. Alt-tabbing doesn't help.

I guess I'll just overclock my GPU and see if any difference occurs.

Wilcke · 02-25-11, 11:44 AM

That GPU won't do it, ever. To have some fun with SH5 try something with the GPU processing power of a 9800GT at minimum. Otherwise you are just spinning your wheels.

bboycero · 02-25-11, 02:16 PM

Well, overclocked it stably and managed to get 20fps in the sub, 30 on naviplot and 22 outside. Playable. Thanks for your suggestions tho.

irish1958 · 02-26-11, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bboycero

Well, overclocked it stably and managed to get 20fps in the sub, 30 on naviplot and 22 outside. Playable. Thanks for your suggestions tho.

Be careful of over-heating a laptop after overclocking a CPU.
If I were you, I would just play SH3 and/or SHIV

mobucks · 02-26-11, 10:49 AM

or just constantly monitor temps and good luck!

really, monitor them constantly.

bboycero · 02-27-11, 04:07 AM

It's around 80°c and it's the GPU not CPU. I'll buy a cooling tab shortly.

02-24-11, 08:43 AM	#1
bboycero Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Horrible 7~10FPS inside the sub Ohaithar. I have: Intel i3 Core (2cores 4threads) 2.4GHz CPU nVidia GeForce 310m 512mb with 16 CUDA cores 3GB of DDR3 RAM At all lowest possible settings, the game lags horribly in the sub and even outside of it. In it I can hardly get 9 to 10 fps and outside 12. On the navigation plot 17 although it has 150fps on the main menu. Halp?

02-25-11, 11:44 AM	#11
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	That GPU won't do it, ever. To have some fun with SH5 try something with the GPU processing power of a 9800GT at minimum. Otherwise you are just spinning your wheels. __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

02-24-11, 08:48 AM	#3
bboycero Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No mods. The game is patched to v1.2.0. OS is windows 7 32bit. Resolution 1024x768. Particles Density and everything else on lowest possible. Vertical Sync off as well as everything else on the right side of the graphics options section. Gamma is a bit over half, but that's the brightness of the screen, doubt that that's affecting the performance lawl.

02-24-11, 09:07 AM	#4
stoianm Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 2,776 Downloads: 833 Uploads: 11	Strange - so you do not have any mods - resolution is low? antialiasing zero, particle density very low, shadows zero, vert sinc of and you can not play? strange - i think maybe sober can help you but anyway read some things related to the os 32 bit and try the antilag Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith Here is something to try for those of you having CTDs or using 32 bit OS: Try this only if you have at least 2 GByte of RAM and at your own risk and using Vista/Win7 32 bit version. First download the explorer from http://www.ntcore.com/exsuite.php Next make a backup copy of SH5.exe. Then start "CFF Explorer" and open the orginal SH5.exe file. Now go to NT Header/File Header and click File Header. There you will find a button labeld "click here". Click it and select the mark at "App can handle> 2gb adressest " Save the modified EXE, overwrite the orginal one (You do have your backup of it in a safe location right?). If you run Windows Vista 64 or Windows XP 64 or Win7 64 you're ready and didnt need to read on. The rest is only for Windows Vista 32/Win7 32 or maybe Windows XP. Now make Windows Vista/Win7 (32-Bit) ready to support more than 2 GByte. Open a command prompt with Administration rights. You find it under "Programs->Accessories->Command prompt" click right and select "run as administrator". Enter "bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVA 3072" (without quotes) in the command window and press enter. After that restart windows To reset back to 2GB limit: to reset the Increased User Adressspace just start the commandline prompt with Admin right again and enter "bcdedit /set IncreaseUserVA 2048" See if the above helps at all Another idea is to install previous version of DirectX ( < v11). I have Win7 64bit but ALWAYS install previous DirectX versions for compatibility reasons. Go to Microsoft's website and search for DirectX. Run the DirectX web installer from their website. You can have DirectX9 AND DirectX11 installed on Win7. EDIT: just checked the sh5.exe file and it's large address aware so enabling the 3GB switch in 32bit OSs should help: Microsoft (R) COFF/PE Dumper Version 9.00.30729.01 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Dump of file sh5.exe PE signature found File Type: EXECUTABLE IMAGE FILE HEADER VALUES 14C machine (x86) 5 number of sections 4BCE9A96 time date stamp Wed Apr 21 01:26:30 2010 0 file pointer to symbol table 0 number of symbols E0 size of optional header 122 characteristics Executable Application can handle large (>2GB) addresses 32 bit word machine And i forgot to ask you if you modified something in your Nvidia control panel and what drv you use for your card? Try to install antilag also: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=2871

02-24-11, 09:28 AM	#5
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	GeForce 310m is not a gamming card. Its oke for a laptop and play games on low details, but not for a resource sucker as SH5 is. Consider upgrading the card if you wanna play SH5 and have a better visual performance.

02-24-11, 09:34 AM	#6
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	310m is a non-upgradeable card IIRC. He would need to purchase a whole new laptop. The m designates mobile, aka laptop card. I have a 360m in my Toshiba Qosmio laptop and it runs SH5 just fine.

02-24-11, 11:10 AM	#9
mobucks Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	sometimes when i get horrible FPS, it fixes itself by alt-tabbing out of the game and back in. Make sure youre surfaced if you try that otherwise o2 will bug.

02-25-11, 09:04 AM	#10
bboycero Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Shadows off. Alt-tabbing doesn't help. I guess I'll just overclock my GPU and see if any difference occurs.

02-25-11, 02:16 PM	#12
bboycero Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, overclocked it stably and managed to get 20fps in the sub, 30 on naviplot and 22 outside. Playable. Thanks for your suggestions tho.

02-26-11, 10:49 AM	#14
mobucks Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	or just constantly monitor temps and good luck! really, monitor them constantly.

02-27-11, 04:07 AM	#15
bboycero Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's around 80°c and it's the GPU not CPU. I'll buy a cooling tab shortly.