50 Billion Planets!

Gargamel · 02-20-11, 08:32 PM

In the miky way alone! Raises the hope of actually having colonies in the future, not mention the possibility of finding life (intelligent or otherwise).

http://news.discovery.com/space/milk...en-worlds.html

breadcatcher101 · 02-20-11, 08:49 PM

50 Billion. I wonder who counted them all.

Talk about job security.

Think we will evolve our tech abilities in time to reach them before the next great impact and the start of a new age?

Presently we can't even seem to be able to afford another trip to the moon.

Best perhaps if those distant from us make the trip.

Castout · 02-20-11, 09:18 PM

You know what there is a lot of gold bars in Fort Knox.

It doesn't mean any one of us could come to get it.

There's even perpetual happiness in heaven . . . . . so they say . . . . but it's out of reach. What we can go to at maximum is death.

I'm just saying that those numbers are meaningless unless mankind develop technology to reach and colonize them. Which we don't have and will not have in the immediate and even rather long future.

There are type 1 civilization which population could harness all the resources of their planet
Type 2 civ if they can harness the resources of their solar system
and Type 3 civilization or galactic civilization if they are able to harness the resources of the galaxies.

The catch is we are not on the list we are type 0 if you can say that. And more catch is the transition from type 0 to type 1 is the most dangerous of all.
We must survive from ourselves and our petty egoistical and selfish pursuit to reach it. We need to revolutionize our culture that is to revamp our mindset.
By the rate we're going we probably will end up destroying each other sooner or later. The environment will provide a background or convenient excuse for that. In short unless we evolve from our primitive and primal tendencies to dominate other people mankind will have NO FUTURE whatsoever.

The fact is we are taking things without hardly contributing anything positive to our planet. We do not even produce the gas we need to breathe and live because nobody could profit from doing that yet. We are pathetic. Our endeavor is to collect some mathematical digits or paper notes called money the currency of insanity which in all objectivity is VALUELESS. We are so busy with ourselves that we forget to move on and reach higher things. Then again nature will ask us to choose and like it or not we will and we have and nature will hand us what we deserve and that if we prove not worthy of a future we shall be given none. Easy, simple. This planet and everything in it don't need us, we need them. And nature always makes sense and if people start to think they are being handed too much or if nature is being unfair then they are not making sense,

TLAM Strike · 02-20-11, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Castout

You know what there is a lot of gold bars in Fort Knox.

It doesn't mean any one of us could come to get it.

If you had a thermonuclear bomb you could...
cue Goldfinger...

And if you had enough of them you could go to other planets...

Screw you guys, I'm going to Rigel Kentaurus...
^Where can I get that on a T Shirt?

Studies in the 1960s-1970s calculated than an Orion drive spacecraft could reach speeds of 5-10% of c. That makes a flight to Alpha Centaruri a trip of ~30-40 years.

Think I'm making this stuff up? NASA really considered such a mission!

Castout · 02-20-11, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Studies in the 1960s-1970s calculated than an Orion drive spacecraft could reach speeds of 5-10% of c. That makes a flight to Alpha Centaruri a trip of ~30-40 years.

Think I'm making this stuff up? NASA really considered such a mission!

Well even if we reach 100% light speed many galaxies are million of light years away

we better hurry because the space is expanding and distancing themselves

I'm sure pre-historic men too once wonder if he could go to the sun to take a look. Now we can wonder the same too but still unable to do so

Gargamel · 02-20-11, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Studies in the 1960s-1970s calculated than an Orion drive spacecraft could reach speeds of 5-10% of c. That makes a flight to Alpha Centaruri a trip of ~30-40 years.

Think I'm making this stuff up? NASA really considered such a mission!

On topic too!
http://news.discovery.com/space/tau-...us-110119.html
http://news.discovery.com/space/proj...ar-110207.html
http://news.discovery.com/space/wide...us-110208.html

Raptor1 · 02-20-11, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Castout

Well even if we reach 100% light speed many galaxies are million of light years away

we better hurry because the space is expanding and distancing themselves

I'm sure pre-historic men too once wonder if he could go to the sun to take a look. Now we can wonder the same too but still unable to do so

Well, technically, if you somehow reach 1 c, then it won't take you any (proper) time to get there at all. The problem is knowing when to stop...

Sailor Steve · 02-20-11, 10:23 PM

Fifty billion? I've never seen one. Therefore they don't exist.

razark · 02-20-11, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've never seen one.

Walk outside. Look down.

There's one!

Sailor Steve · 02-20-11, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

Walk outside. Look down.

There's one!

I just did. All I saw was dirt. I don't get it.

razark · 02-20-11, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I just did. All I saw was dirt. I don't get it.

You need to look under the dirt, I guess.

TLAM Strike · 02-20-11, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castout

Well even if we reach 100% light speed many galaxies are million of light years away

we better hurry because the space is expanding and distancing themselves

Not a problem if you can reach 1 c (well you can't but you can reach something like .9999 c in theory) when that happens a wonderful little thing call Time Dilation occurs. Time for the crew of the Spacecraft in flight will change. At .9999 of c it will change by a factor of 70! Basically for every day on Earth the spaceship's crew will travel the distance of 2.59x10^10 km x 70 (approx 1/5th of a light year per day) because from their perspective the universe is traveling 70 times faster, in essence they are traveling though time as well as space.

Sailor Steve · 02-20-11, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razark

You need to look under the dirt, I guess.

Castout · 02-20-11, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Not a problem if you can reach 1 c (well you can't but you can reach something like .9999 c in theory) when that happens a wonderful little thing call Time Dilation occurs. Time for the crew of the Spacecraft in flight will change. At .9999 of c it will change by a factor of 70! Basically for every day on Earth the spaceship's crew will travel the distance of 2.59x10^10 km x 70 (approx 1/5th of a light year per day) because from their perspective the universe is traveling 70 times faster, in essence they are traveling though time as well as space.

. . . . . .

[get back]

. . . . . .

[get back]

. . . . . . .

i'm afraid I'm too dumb to understand that

Gargamel · 02-20-11, 11:09 PM

Just finished reading "Ender's Game" and "The speaker for the Dead" (sequels). They do a decent job of describing the relativistic effects of time dilation on the human person. And they're really good reads too.

02-20-11, 08:32 PM	#1
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	50 Billion Planets! In the miky way alone! Raises the hope of actually having colonies in the future, not mention the possibility of finding life (intelligent or otherwise). http://news.discovery.com/space/milk...en-worlds.html __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

02-20-11, 09:18 PM	#3
Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	You know what there is a lot of gold bars in Fort Knox. It doesn't mean any one of us could come to get it. There's even perpetual happiness in heaven . . . . . so they say . . . . but it's out of reach. What we can go to at maximum is death. I'm just saying that those numbers are meaningless unless mankind develop technology to reach and colonize them. Which we don't have and will not have in the immediate and even rather long future. There are type 1 civilization which population could harness all the resources of their planet Type 2 civ if they can harness the resources of their solar system and Type 3 civilization or galactic civilization if they are able to harness the resources of the galaxies. The catch is we are not on the list we are type 0 if you can say that. And more catch is the transition from type 0 to type 1 is the most dangerous of all. We must survive from ourselves and our petty egoistical and selfish pursuit to reach it. We need to revolutionize our culture that is to revamp our mindset. By the rate we're going we probably will end up destroying each other sooner or later. The environment will provide a background or convenient excuse for that. In short unless we evolve from our primitive and primal tendencies to dominate other people mankind will have NO FUTURE whatsoever. The fact is we are taking things without hardly contributing anything positive to our planet. We do not even produce the gas we need to breathe and live because nobody could profit from doing that yet. We are pathetic. Our endeavor is to collect some mathematical digits or paper notes called money the currency of insanity which in all objectivity is VALUELESS. We are so busy with ourselves that we forget to move on and reach higher things. Then again nature will ask us to choose and like it or not we will and we have and nature will hand us what we deserve and that if we prove not worthy of a future we shall be given none. Easy, simple. This planet and everything in it don't need us, we need them. And nature always makes sense and if people start to think they are being handed too much or if nature is being unfair then they are not making sense, __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/ Last edited by Castout; 02-20-11 at 10:16 PM.

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Fifty billion? I've never seen one. Therefore they don't exist. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-20-11, 11:09 PM	#15
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Just finished reading "Ender's Game" and "The speaker for the Dead" (sequels). They do a decent job of describing the relativistic effects of time dilation on the human person. And they're really good reads too. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

02-20-11, 08:49 PM	#2
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	50 Billion. I wonder who counted them all. Talk about job security. Think we will evolve our tech abilities in time to reach them before the next great impact and the start of a new age? Presently we can't even seem to be able to afford another trip to the moon. Best perhaps if those distant from us make the trip.