Dear striking teachers in Wisconsin...

[Bubblehead1980]

Get your as..ugh rear ends back in the classroom and do your jobs.You are neglecting students and disrupting their education.The Governor should begin recruitment of replacement teachers and ensure every teacher not back in class monday unless out for a legitimate reason is fired, use substitutes until permanent replacements are found.Sick of union scum standing in the way of this country due to their greed and desire for bloated benefits, lets hope Governor Walker does not give in.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

use subs until permanent replacements are found

I don't get how an u-boat can replace a teacher...

[Gargamel]

I totally agree with that point of view when it comes to pro sports unions, Auto workers, etc.

But do you honestly think teachers are overpaid?

I would assume that there were many rounds of negotiations before this happened, and this is what they felt they needed to do.

[Buddahaid]

You can thank union scum for your forty hour work week and other things we take for granted in our workplaces.

I wish for once you could post something without name calling being involved. I lose interest very fast when people do that, or feel the need to swear, or shout to make a point.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

I totally agree with that point of view when it comes to pro sports unions, Auto workers, etc.

But do you honestly think teachers are overpaid?

I would assume that there were many rounds of negotiations before this happened, and this is what they felt they needed to do.

If you knew the pay and benefits packages of Wisconsin teachers, I highly doubt you'd find them to be underpaid.

Yes, they need to get their asses back in the classrooms. Especially considering that the bill they are protesting has NOTHING TO DO WITH TEACHERS.

This is all about union thuggery.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

You can thank union scum for your forty hour work week and other things we take for granted in our workplaces.

I wish for once you could post something without name calling being involved. I lose interest very fast when people do that, or feel the need to swear, or shout to make a point.

A 40 hour work week, millions of American families are working two jobs or over 60 hours a week to pay bills. The majority of small buinesses here have made deep cuts, cut or dropped benefits, etc...Course Unions and Corporations are killing small business, both pets of Dems and Rep.

We that pay taxes have to support huge benefit packages for these union workers while we do without benefits.... As Obama said, we all have to give, time unions get in line with the rest of us. Bankrupt states in the red are now facing hard facts, the cuts will have to be deep, many states are laying off. States don't do something now employess may find the bank turning down worthless paychecks.

I know plenty of unemployed people that would love to have these jobs and do them well, based on who is the best at it. Unions had a place once, Many of these union teachers suck, but almost impossible to fire. Pay and benefits should be based on who doe's the best job.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

You can thank union scum for your forty hour work week and other things we take for granted in our workplaces.

I wish for once you could post something without name calling being involved. I lose interest very fast when people do that, or feel the need to swear, or shout to make a point.

Or post insipid rants devoid of substance...

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

You can thank union scum for your forty hour work week and other things we take for granted in our workplaces.

Heh, yeah, sure, buddy.

I haven't worked 40 hours or less per week since ... well, since ... I have no idea.

So here's to those public employee unions which allow SOME people to work 40 hours a week while others (such as myself and any other private taxpayer) pays their bills.

[nikimcbee]

So, Aramike, are you going to Madison for the party?
See, we don't have your problem here in or-gone, as the public union has absolute control over this state. Only their sock puppets get elected, so there is never any civil unrest.

[Growler]

Unions no longer serve the greater good.

Furthermore, if you think public school teachers are in the classroom being able to TEACH anything, you've not been in a public school much lately. The days of teaching are over; these days, teachers are forced to pander to the left-leaning political correctness crowd and NCLB testing. Teaching hasn't happened in public schools in years.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

You can thank union scum for your forty hour work week and other things we take for granted in our workplaces.

I wish for once you could post something without name calling being involved. I lose interest very fast when people do that, or feel the need to swear, or shout to make a point.

YEAH I AGREE!




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millions of American families are working two jobs or over 60 hours a week to pay bills

If they was working those 60 hours in one job instead of two wouldn't they be getting a hell of a lot more money.

I haven't worked 40 hours or less per week since ... well, since ... I have no idea.

I havn't either, but anthing over the 37 or 38.5 or 39 or 40 or whichever it is in that country at the time has been at the time has always been paid as overtime unless its on price.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

If they was working those 60 hours in one job instead of two wouldn't they be getting a hell of a lot more money.


I havn't either, but anthing over the 37 or 38.5 or 39 or 40 or whichever it is in that country at the time has been at the time has always been paid as overtime unless its on price.

Many folks working multiple jobs are working across different employers, where rather than a 40 hour and 20 hour, they're on two 30 hour gigs. In many US states, an employee must regularly work 32+ hours across several weeks to be eligible for benefits as a full time employee; that 30 hours a week doesn't come close to the Federal Government mandated 40 hour then overtime rates criteria. So, unless they work over 40 hours, they get hourly pay at base rate.

"On price" I'm guessing means the same as "salaried" or "contracted" here in the States - in which case, you are still only required to meet the minimum 40 hour work week - but many employers take advantage of the contract status and mandate 50 or 60 hour work weeks at base salary - which is illegal, but rarely enforced.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Growler

"On price" I'm guessing means the same as "salaried" or "contracted" here in the States - in which case, you are still only required to meet the minimum 40 hour work week - but many employers take advantage of the contract status and mandate 50 or 60 hour work weeks at base salary - which is illegal, but rarely enforced.

Which supports a need for unions to keep employers from running sweat shops. What we have now is a reflection of our political polarity where the need for compromises must be forced upon us.

I've never been a union employee, and work for the only non-unionized department in my workplace, but I appreciate what unions have done to keep employers from abusing their employees.

In a perfect world there would be no need for unions and no need for absurdly inflated executive salaries. Not socialism, but fair and sensibly run capitalism.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Growler

but many employers take advantage of the contract status and mandate 50 or 60 hour work weeks at base salary - which is illegal, but rarely enforced.

If only there were some way for a group of these employees to band together and make their voices heard...