Megamod for SH3 ?

von faust · 01-31-11, 11:30 AM

There are many fantastic mod but it's always hard to know how to activate them all at once.
I'd like to study with your help, how to create a Megamod but I need the advice of the top modders.
We can all work together in a single direction?

I thought of 3 configurations

Option 1:
SH3 + patch
GWX Gold
FM_Interior
Magui or OLC 'Gold'
Other mods?

Option 2:
SH3 + patch
LSH
FM_Interior
Magui or OLC 'Gold'
Other mods?

Option 3:
SH3 + patch
NYGM 3
FM_Interior
Magui or OLC 'Gold'
Other mods?

Magic1111 · 01-31-11, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by von faust

There are many fantastic mod but it's always hard to know how to activate them all at once.
I'd like to study with your help, how to create a Megamod but I need the advice of the top modders.
We can all work together in a single direction?

I thought of 3 configurations

Option 1:
SH3 + patch
GWX Gold
FM_Interior
Magui or OLC 'Gold'
Other mods?

Option 2:
SH3 + patch
LSH
FM_Interior
Magui or OLC 'Gold'
Other mods?

Option 3:
SH3 + patch
NYGM 3
FM_Interior
Magui or OLC 'Gold'
Other mods?

I use Option 2, look:
01_LSH3_V5
02_LSH3_V5.1
03_LSH3_V5.1__ExtendedChallenge
04_LSH3_V5.1__ExtentedChallenge_BlackContacts
05_LSH3_V5.1__Dunkles-Erkennungshandbuch
06_LSH3_V5.1_SLS_Schiffshorn-Leuchtkugeln-Seenotsignal
07_LSH3_V5.1_SLS_Spezialeffekte-Mittel
08_LSH3_V5.1__Rotating-DF-Antenna_V3
09_LSH3_V5.1_ATM_Blau
10_LSH3_V5.1_GUI_Six-Dials-Simfeeling
11_LSH3_V5_GUI_Six-Dials-Simfeeling+Maptool+Integrated Orders
12_LSH3_V5_DFa-Flag&Penns_2010
13_LSH3_V5_Airport_V5.1_HK_Mod
14_Colored Hull Integrity Indicator
15_Conus' Historically Accurate U-boat Emblems 1.3
16_Das Boot Music
17_Sounds+Grammophone Lieder
18_Spirit of machines
19_Intro Movie
20_Sub_ Image_MOD
21_XXI Battery Damage Fix
22_Torpedo damage Final ver2.0
23_Marhkimovs Torpedos Black
24_Realistic Hull Damage+UMark sichtbar+geä. Sehrohrtiefen+höhere Windwerte für Benutzung Bordkanonen
25_Leitz Fernglas
26_Officer Faces
27_Rapt0r's Uniforms V2.0
28_Rapt0r's Instruments V3.5 [Without Red Circle]
29_Eigene Änderungen + höhere Werte für Orden + CrewConfigGWX
30_b25_SF_Grass_Full_V2
31_Main movie - 'Das Boot'
32_FM_NewInterior_V1.0 Typ VII + DD_OH_3.09 Typen II,IX,XXI
33_IntroSHIII
34_KJF_Moon_v1.1
35_WABO Parameter
36_Städte+ObjekteWAC
37_Multimod compatability fix release v1.3 public beta_Typ VII + Depthcharge Shake
38_Multimod compatability (Commands+sdl)
39_The Green Font Mod
40_b25_Louder_Diesels_Louder
41_BMW-R75 v.1 by TP
42_Mine+UAW Netze by TP
43_Bearded faces+WAC Offiziersmütze
44_Officers Faces_v2
45_No continuous 'Ship spotted' V1.2 for LSH
46_Torpedo_HAHD_1024
47_New_clearsky_clouds
48_EAX_Sound_Simulation_SH3
49_-63MBinSound
50_Schiffe für LSH3_V5.1
51_Flieger für LSH3_V5.1
52_External Cargo from SH5
53_AI_SUBS_FROM_SH5_Version2
54_16k Atmosphere_Eigen
55_MaGui F
56_Torpedoraum Typ II 1.0
57_Type II salvo selector
58_GWX - Officer Icons-Ger
_DX9HiResFix
_Bad Weather Fix V1.1 (Standard)

Damo · 01-31-11, 07:33 PM

I use option 1 but with MFM instead of FMInteriors (32bit OS, Kernel gremlins), sh4 effects and about 25 other mods, took a bit of merging but it's doable.

The holy grail would be a megamod taking the best features from GWX, LSH, NYGM and WAC and throwing them in a proverbial soup with all the little mods as croutons.

Yum!!

Sailor Steve · 02-01-11, 01:06 AM

I don't think you could go wrong with any of those, and with Multi-SH3 you can have them all!

If your computer will run them, that is. Mine won't.

Jimbuna · 02-01-11, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damo

I use option 1 but with MFM instead of FMInteriors (32bit OS, Kernel gremlins), sh4 effects and about 25 other mods, took a bit of merging but it's doable.

The holy grail would be a megamod taking the best features from GWX, LSH, NYGM and WAC and throwing them in a proverbial soup with all the little mods as croutons.

Yum!!

That's what Kpt. Lehmann often referred to as 'mod soup' but I do agree with yoi in principle

Damo · 02-01-11, 01:14 PM

Yes Jimbuna, it was the basis for my comment, couldn't remember who said it, but it is the best description for what a lot of us put ourselves through to achieve the perfect simulation (for us as individuals anyway, many flavors of soup...).

Now, theoretically speaking, let's say somebody or a group of somebodies decided it was time to throw together the 'best bits' of all the above mentioned mods, what would be the best flavor to base the mod on, and then what parts of the other mods would you shoehorn into that base? I know it's been discussed before with no-one taking the bull by the horns but indulge me here.

I speak from experience of a flight sim that I am a big fan of, Falcon 4. After a buggy release by Microprose the .exe was cracked and a number of indi developers started working on their own versions with varying success. Like SH3 it's rare for people to stick with the stock version (almost unheard of with Falcon 4), and due to incompatibilities between the various flavors the community has been split into three distinct camps; Freefalcon, Openfalcon and Falcon AF (a legal, licensed, commercial re-release). Again, like SH3, newcomers to the sim face confusion about what is the best one for them and the answer is the same, install them all.

SH3 is easier to work with than Falcon 4 due to it's file structure and unlike Falcon 4 is happy under DX9 (as opposed to DX7, a major thorn in the side of Falcon 4 future development). It would just be nice to see a bringing together of the various flavors as, unlike Falcon 4 where there is bitterness and competition between the developers, SH3 modders have a lot more respect for each other and are above all that 'my mod is better than your mod' mentality as far as I can see.

It might not ever happen, but I do believe those that could do it, would do it without stepping on anyones toes and in a way that benefits SH3, those that seek to improve it and it's loyal fanbase. I know I for one won't be going over to SH5 until it has the amount of goodies that match SH3, and that's a few years away yet.

But hey, I'm just thinking aloud, discuss if you want, or don't...

Myxale · 02-01-11, 01:59 PM

After may years now, I think it would be time for a group to form that would, in essence, make another add-on pack for GWX or (put mega-mod of your liking here) to add the latest and the best to the already existing in a unified and controlled way.

As time goes on and the talented people here keep spouting out new mods or come up with patches for the old shortcomings like h.sie does.

Or release better models of subs like Cobalt, with his VIIC or Wittemans Type II; or even Testpilot new VII. And that's just a few for the record!

We really need such! Aces started a compatibility/merging trend that was good and still is. But as things go on and new stuff enters the sim, a compatibility patch wont suffice!

Jimbuna · 02-01-11, 02:09 PM

I'm not so sure there are that many talented modders working on SH3 right now.

There are quite a few attempting to teach the pig to sing

*The above comment was passed down to me from a close 'modding' friend*

Damo · 02-01-11, 05:44 PM

Oinky woinky wooooooooooooooooooo.......

Jimbuna · 02-01-11, 06:45 PM

Damo · 02-01-11, 07:37 PM

Your's not up for a sing song then..........

Ducimus · 02-01-11, 07:37 PM

Creating a megamod is not as easy as some seem to think it is.

Victor Schutze · 02-01-11, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Jimbuna · 02-02-11, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Creating a megamod is not as easy as some seem to think it is.

There could be some merit in what you've posted

Sailor Steve · 02-02-11, 05:48 PM

I keep hoping somebody will make one someday...

01-31-11, 11:30 AM	#1
von faust Soundman Join Date: May 2009 Location: Genova, Italy Posts: 148 Downloads: 430 Uploads: 0	Megamod for SH3 ? There are many fantastic mod but it's always hard to know how to activate them all at once. I'd like to study with your help, how to create a Megamod but I need the advice of the top modders. We can all work together in a single direction? I thought of 3 configurations Option 1: SH3 + patch GWX Gold FM_Interior Magui or OLC 'Gold' Other mods? Option 2: SH3 + patch LSH FM_Interior Magui or OLC 'Gold' Other mods? Option 3: SH3 + patch NYGM 3 FM_Interior Magui or OLC 'Gold' Other mods?

01-31-11, 07:33 PM	#3
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	I use option 1 but with MFM instead of FMInteriors (32bit OS, Kernel gremlins), sh4 effects and about 25 other mods, took a bit of merging but it's doable. The holy grail would be a megamod taking the best features from GWX, LSH, NYGM and WAC and throwing them in a proverbial soup with all the little mods as croutons. Yum!! __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float.

02-01-11, 01:06 AM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I don't think you could go wrong with any of those, and with Multi-SH3 you can have them all! If your computer will run them, that is. Mine won't. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-01-11, 01:14 PM	#6
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	Yes Jimbuna, it was the basis for my comment, couldn't remember who said it, but it is the best description for what a lot of us put ourselves through to achieve the perfect simulation (for us as individuals anyway, many flavors of soup...). Now, theoretically speaking, let's say somebody or a group of somebodies decided it was time to throw together the 'best bits' of all the above mentioned mods, what would be the best flavor to base the mod on, and then what parts of the other mods would you shoehorn into that base? I know it's been discussed before with no-one taking the bull by the horns but indulge me here. I speak from experience of a flight sim that I am a big fan of, Falcon 4. After a buggy release by Microprose the .exe was cracked and a number of indi developers started working on their own versions with varying success. Like SH3 it's rare for people to stick with the stock version (almost unheard of with Falcon 4), and due to incompatibilities between the various flavors the community has been split into three distinct camps; Freefalcon, Openfalcon and Falcon AF (a legal, licensed, commercial re-release). Again, like SH3, newcomers to the sim face confusion about what is the best one for them and the answer is the same, install them all. SH3 is easier to work with than Falcon 4 due to it's file structure and unlike Falcon 4 is happy under DX9 (as opposed to DX7, a major thorn in the side of Falcon 4 future development). It would just be nice to see a bringing together of the various flavors as, unlike Falcon 4 where there is bitterness and competition between the developers, SH3 modders have a lot more respect for each other and are above all that 'my mod is better than your mod' mentality as far as I can see. It might not ever happen, but I do believe those that could do it, would do it without stepping on anyones toes and in a way that benefits SH3, those that seek to improve it and it's loyal fanbase. I know I for one won't be going over to SH5 until it has the amount of goodies that match SH3, and that's a few years away yet. But hey, I'm just thinking aloud, discuss if you want, or don't... __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float.

02-01-11, 01:59 PM	#7
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	After may years now, I think it would be time for a group to form that would, in essence, make another add-on pack for GWX or (put mega-mod of your liking here) to add the latest and the best to the already existing in a unified and controlled way. As time goes on and the talented people here keep spouting out new mods or come up with patches for the old shortcomings like h.sie does. Or release better models of subs like Cobalt, with his VIIC or Wittemans Type II; or even Testpilot new VII. And that's just a few for the record! We really need such! Aces started a compatibility/merging trend that was good and still is. But as things go on and new stuff enters the sim, a compatibility patch wont suffice! __________________ SH3+GWX SH5+WoS Still Sailing....still Deep Last edited by Myxale; 02-01-11 at 02:09 PM.

02-01-11, 02:09 PM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm not so sure there are that many talented modders working on SH3 right now. There are quite a few attempting to teach the pig to sing The above comment was passed down to me from a close 'modding' friend __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-01-11, 05:44 PM	#9
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	Oinky woinky wooooooooooooooooooo....... __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float. Last edited by Damo; 02-01-11 at 07:36 PM.

02-01-11, 06:45 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-01-11, 07:37 PM	#11
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	Your's not up for a sing song then.......... __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float.

02-01-11, 07:37 PM	#12
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Creating a megamod is not as easy as some seem to think it is.

02-02-11, 05:48 PM	#15
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I keep hoping somebody will make one someday... __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo