[WIP] sobers base wave mechanics V16 SH5

THE_MASK · 02-28-11, 07:08 PM

Use the current waves mod
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=2895

stoianm · 02-28-11, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

Why is it a whip ?
because it is a radical change from previous base wave mods .

What am i trying to do ?
I am trying to get the sub to pitch the nose up and down .
It is the wave action on the sub that makes the sub pitch up and down .

Install anytime either in base or on patrol with the mod enabler (jsgme).

Feedback please.
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20052...cs+V16+SH5.rar

HMOG

- i was dreaming for a mod like this - so happy you started something like this
i will test wright away

Budds · 02-28-11, 07:45 PM

Using v15 now, and for my taste it pitches and rolls just a touch too much.... but thats just me.

Something about Sh and the way Subs ride in the water....
Tend to "Bob" too high, and not "Smash" into waves with the force something that heavy would.
Hope you can find the Happy Place between "Sub on Rails", and "White-Knuckle" Ride.

Will try this new Version.....

7thSeal · 02-28-11, 08:47 PM

Well I've only tried it while loaded over MO which the sub rides a little deeper on the surface I believe than stock. At half speed with 5m/s waves I'm a bit heavy on the front with the pitch. At speeds above this I see it less though as it tends to level out a little more. Screenshot of what I'm getting.

mobucks · 03-01-11, 10:23 AM

After testing v16, I think you're on to something here Sober!

Havent had large waves yet, but the sub seems to ride the 0-5ms waves pretty good!

A possible side effect, I cants get my sub to go flank speed above 16.5kts. Mind you my sub is a 7a fresh into a new campaign, so i dont know if its just that. But I think stock MO you top out at 17.5kts.

I do not have a lower sitting sub or a soaked bow going 5kts in calm seas, as 7thSeal reported.

While I have your attention, the 0-5ms waves, have a whitecap. This wouldnt happen unless a huge gust of wind was hitting such a flat wave. Is it possible to have whitecap waves only in high seas?

WillyVic · 03-01-11, 11:44 AM

Tested the V16. Can't say I am a fan my friend. If the wind is set to anything other than 0 degrees the sub wake when viewed from the conning tower has anomolies (scattered foam, track of wake off set, a general choppiness to wave action). The sub looks to be suspended within the waves. In other words it looks like the waves come to meet the sub instead of the sub ploughing through the waves.

I thoroughly enjoy your earlier incarnations of the mod and think I will stick with v12.

Hope this has been helpful with troublehshooting.

WV

Magic1111 · 03-01-11, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillyVic

Tested the V16. Can't say I am a fan my friend. If the wind is set to anything other than 0 degrees the sub wake when viewed from the conning tower has anomolies (scattered foam, track of wake off set, a general choppiness to wave action). The sub looks to be suspended within the waves. In other words it looks like the waves come to meet the sub instead of the sub ploughing through the waves.

I thoroughly enjoy your earlier incarnations of the mod and think I will stick with v12.

Hope this has been helpful with troublehshooting.

WV

I must agree ! After testing I don´t like this version and I´ve disabled it ! I prefer v12 !

Best regards,
Magic

charognard · 03-01-11, 05:38 PM

It s a WIP guys, i m sure sober will release a great mod at end

But in actual stat i agree, it s not good...

THE_MASK · 03-01-11, 05:43 PM

I cannot get it any better so scrap it .
I would like someone else to have a go at the waves .
Its just 1 file and its just moving numbers around .
My mods are on ly there until someone makes something better .
So i wish someone would .

kiwi_2005 · 03-02-11, 04:08 AM

This looks brilliant even what you have (in the picture) looks good.

Ive always wish SH5 had rolling waves not the mostly choppy type. Silent Hunter 2 kinda was close to the rolling wave. A yacht game I use to play few years back forgot the name but the rolling waves in the game were the best ive seen.

pascal4541 · 03-02-11, 08:54 AM

Thank you sober but i I prefer the version 12 which seems to me more realistic. V16 is Really nice but for the coast and and V12 for the open sea...
It's just my opinion

Pintea · 03-03-11, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

What am i trying to do ?
I am trying to get the sub to pitch the nose up and down .
It is the wave action on the sub that makes the sub pitch up and down .

Best of luck, although you may hit a few technical limitations there because of the collision detection & physics code.
The system has been improved over SH3/4 but it still doesn't work flawlessly. You might still be able to improve it a little bit, however bear in mind that it will look worse as the waves go higher.

Bilge_Rat · 03-03-11, 08:39 AM

this is indeed a tricky issue. I tried the mod, but somehow the waves don't look right.

mobucks · 03-03-11, 11:16 AM

yeah the waves dont look right, but looking at sub from outside, especially at TCx2, it rides the waves better than ive seen in the game so far.

Hats off Sober, your work has always been valuable.

03-05-11, 01:49 PM

Is v12 available? How does it compare to v15?

02-28-11, 07:08 PM	#1
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	[WIP] sobers base wave mechanics V16 SH5 Use the current waves mod http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=2895 Last edited by THE_MASK; 03-29-11 at 05:44 PM.

02-28-11, 08:47 PM	#4
7thSeal Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 592 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	Well I've only tried it while loaded over MO which the sub rides a little deeper on the surface I believe than stock. At half speed with 5m/s waves I'm a bit heavy on the front with the pitch. At speeds above this I see it less though as it tends to level out a little more. Screenshot of what I'm getting. Last edited by 7thSeal; 02-28-11 at 11:38 PM.

03-01-11, 05:38 PM	#8
charognard Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 171 Downloads: 201 Uploads: 0	It s a WIP guys, i m sure sober will release a great mod at end But in actual stat i agree, it s not good... __________________ Gwx 3.0 / Rbs1_SH4_Effects_GWX_30_71 / Water Stream for Uboats / REAL U-505 item graphics for slide-out compass / SH3 Commander 3.2 /SH3 Commander Config files for GWX 3.0

03-02-11, 04:08 AM	#10
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	This looks brilliant even what you have (in the picture) looks good. Ive always wish SH5 had rolling waves not the mostly choppy type. Silent Hunter 2 kinda was close to the rolling wave. A yacht game I use to play few years back forgot the name but the rolling waves in the game were the best ive seen. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

03-02-11, 08:54 AM	#11
pascal4541 Officer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: In France dept 26 Posts: 243 Downloads: 434 Uploads: 0	Thank you sober but i I prefer the version 12 which seems to me more realistic. V16 is Really nice but for the coast and and V12 for the open sea... It's just my opinion __________________ Rampage Formula X48+E8600@4600Mhz H24+Corsair H50+4X2Go GSkill Trident PC9600+Sapphire HD6870@ 960/4600Mhz+WD Raptor 74Go+WD CaviarBlack 500Gox2+Samsung F1 500Go+CoolerMaster M850W+7-64Bits

02-28-11, 07:45 PM	#3
Budds Bosun Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 68 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 0	Using v15 now, and for my taste it pitches and rolls just a touch too much.... but thats just me. Something about Sh and the way Subs ride in the water.... Tend to "Bob" too high, and not "Smash" into waves with the force something that heavy would. Hope you can find the Happy Place between "Sub on Rails", and "White-Knuckle" Ride. Will try this new Version.....

03-01-11, 10:23 AM	#5
mobucks Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	After testing v16, I think you're on to something here Sober! Havent had large waves yet, but the sub seems to ride the 0-5ms waves pretty good! A possible side effect, I cants get my sub to go flank speed above 16.5kts. Mind you my sub is a 7a fresh into a new campaign, so i dont know if its just that. But I think stock MO you top out at 17.5kts. I do not have a lower sitting sub or a soaked bow going 5kts in calm seas, as 7thSeal reported. While I have your attention, the 0-5ms waves, have a whitecap. This wouldnt happen unless a huge gust of wind was hitting such a flat wave. Is it possible to have whitecap waves only in high seas?

03-01-11, 11:44 AM	#6
WillyVic Mate Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 59 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Tested the V16. Can't say I am a fan my friend. If the wind is set to anything other than 0 degrees the sub wake when viewed from the conning tower has anomolies (scattered foam, track of wake off set, a general choppiness to wave action). The sub looks to be suspended within the waves. In other words it looks like the waves come to meet the sub instead of the sub ploughing through the waves. I thoroughly enjoy your earlier incarnations of the mod and think I will stick with v12. Hope this has been helpful with troublehshooting. WV

03-01-11, 05:43 PM	#9
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	I cannot get it any better so scrap it . I would like someone else to have a go at the waves . Its just 1 file and its just moving numbers around . My mods are on ly there until someone makes something better . So i wish someone would .

03-03-11, 08:39 AM	#13
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	this is indeed a tricky issue. I tried the mod, but somehow the waves don't look right. __________________

03-03-11, 11:16 AM	#14
mobucks Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	yeah the waves dont look right, but looking at sub from outside, especially at TCx2, it rides the waves better than ive seen in the game so far. Hats off Sober, your work has always been valuable.

03-05-11, 01:49 PM	#15
7Infanterie19 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Is v12 available? How does it compare to v15?