change external load-outs into internals

gazpode_l · 02-14-11, 07:14 AM

Im currently skippering U-93, a ViiC style u-boat in 1941.

What I want to ask is that my boat carries two external stored torpedoes, one for'ad and the other aft.

I never get to use these because each time I need to bring these inside, we are in over 5 meter seas and practicly impossible for me to do so.

So what I am thinking is changing my game so that it reflects these are carried inside instead.

I've seen how I can change this but forgotten how.

Can anyone help me with this or do people think this is cheating - if so I won't do the change and just run without them in the future, keeping my weight of my boat down and thereby increasing mileage.

Ur thought's please

gazpode_l · 02-14-11, 08:39 AM

I've found what I was after in the mods section, although your oppinions on my intended changes are welcome!

frau kaleun · 02-14-11, 09:06 AM

I'm a little confused, because there shouldn't be any reason that you can't transfer external eels into the boat in that kind of weather, unless you're deliberately refraining from doing so in order to play more realistically.

OTOH, modding the boat so that its external torpedo storage becomes more space inside the boat for extra eels doesn't seem very realistic at all.

That said, there's no reason you shouldn't play the game in whatever way pleases you, but it seems to me that you'd be ending up with a net gain/loss of zero where realism is concerned. If it's going to be sacrificed one way or the other I think it would just be easier to haul those eels inside at sea regardless of the weather.

gazpode_l · 02-14-11, 10:05 AM

Hi Frau
Your comment raises some excellent thoughts to be fair.

I think that my playing of the game is quite realistic in that there's no way I would begin to bring a torpedo inside, espcially when we are in conditions where the game won't even let me man-up any of my guns due to the rough weather, so I thought "if it's too rough to man the deck gun, then it's to rough to transfer those external torpdeo's/eels"

Then I had another gripe - I thought, that given that for the last two patrol's where i've expended alot of eels, the weather's been so shocking I've not been able to transfer them what's the point in carrying them in the first place?

I can very much also see the point of that I will begin to play un-realistically if I turn those external one's into internals using a modification, and if I was going to do that, I might as well cheat some more and say for example carry over 20 eel's like some of the bigger u-boats did (or did they?)

I am wondering if not taking that additional weight in terms of the external eel's might help fuel consumption or milage, or am I thinking too complex and too far out of the box in terms of SH3 and it's game engine?

Regards
Gary
(aka Kln Walter Suhr, Skipper U-93)

gazpode_l · 02-14-11, 10:08 AM

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I am wondering if not taking that additional weight in terms of the external eel's might help fuel consumption or milage, or am I thinking too complex and too far out of the box in terms of SH3 and it's game engine?

Am now wondering how I wld select NO torpedo when processing my load-out via my u-boat screen within sh3 itself?

frau kaleun · 02-14-11, 10:15 AM

I don't know, I've never played with the loadout, I usually just take what they give me. I'm pretty sure there's a way to change out one kind of eel for another, but I don't know if you can just select NO torpedo at all for one of the designated slots in that screen. I think to change the default loadout in that way you'd have to tinker with the game files. Pretty sure it can be done, but then that would be your default loadout all the time and you'd have to go back in and edit the files again if you ever wanted to make a change.

Wreford-Brown · 02-14-11, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gazpode_l

I am wondering if not taking that additional weight in terms of the external eel's might help fuel consumption or milage, or am I thinking too complex and too far out of the box in terms of SH3 and it's game engine?

Weight of a torpedo is approx 1.9 tons.
Weight of a VIIC approx 871 tons (submerged).

Losing 3.8 tons is not going to improve your fuel consumption or mileage to any great degree.

gazpode_l · 02-14-11, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

Weight of a torpedo is approx 1.9 tons.
Weight of a VIIC approx 871 tons (submerged).

Losing 3.8 tons is not going to improve your fuel consumption or mileage to any great degree.

Awww ok!

thanks buddy.

Wreford-Brown · 02-14-11, 09:03 AM

Wolfies Tweak Pak is on my MediaFire site - it'll allow you to change your torpedo loadout to anything you'd like.

02-14-11, 07:14 AM	#1
gazpode_l 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 280 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	change external load-outs into internals Im currently skippering U-93, a ViiC style u-boat in 1941. What I want to ask is that my boat carries two external stored torpedoes, one for'ad and the other aft. I never get to use these because each time I need to bring these inside, we are in over 5 meter seas and practicly impossible for me to do so. So what I am thinking is changing my game so that it reflects these are carried inside instead. I've seen how I can change this but forgotten how. Can anyone help me with this or do people think this is cheating - if so I won't do the change and just run without them in the future, keeping my weight of my boat down and thereby increasing mileage. Ur thought's please

02-14-11, 08:39 AM	#2
gazpode_l 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 280 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	re: torpedo loadouts I've found what I was after in the mods section, although your oppinions on my intended changes are welcome!

02-14-11, 09:03 AM	#9
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	Wolfies Tweak Pak is on my MediaFire site - it'll allow you to change your torpedo loadout to anything you'd like. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

02-14-11, 09:06 AM	#3
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I'm a little confused, because there shouldn't be any reason that you can't transfer external eels into the boat in that kind of weather, unless you're deliberately refraining from doing so in order to play more realistically. OTOH, modding the boat so that its external torpedo storage becomes more space inside the boat for extra eels doesn't seem very realistic at all. That said, there's no reason you shouldn't play the game in whatever way pleases you, but it seems to me that you'd be ending up with a net gain/loss of zero where realism is concerned. If it's going to be sacrificed one way or the other I think it would just be easier to haul those eels inside at sea regardless of the weather.

02-14-11, 10:05 AM	#4
gazpode_l 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 280 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Hi Frau Your comment raises some excellent thoughts to be fair. I think that my playing of the game is quite realistic in that there's no way I would begin to bring a torpedo inside, espcially when we are in conditions where the game won't even let me man-up any of my guns due to the rough weather, so I thought "if it's too rough to man the deck gun, then it's to rough to transfer those external torpdeo's/eels" Then I had another gripe - I thought, that given that for the last two patrol's where i've expended alot of eels, the weather's been so shocking I've not been able to transfer them what's the point in carrying them in the first place? I can very much also see the point of that I will begin to play un-realistically if I turn those external one's into internals using a modification, and if I was going to do that, I might as well cheat some more and say for example carry over 20 eel's like some of the bigger u-boats did (or did they?) I am wondering if not taking that additional weight in terms of the external eel's might help fuel consumption or milage, or am I thinking too complex and too far out of the box in terms of SH3 and it's game engine? Regards Gary (aka Kln Walter Suhr, Skipper U-93)

02-14-11, 10:15 AM	#6
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I don't know, I've never played with the loadout, I usually just take what they give me. I'm pretty sure there's a way to change out one kind of eel for another, but I don't know if you can just select NO torpedo at all for one of the designated slots in that screen. I think to change the default loadout in that way you'd have to tinker with the game files. Pretty sure it can be done, but then that would be your default loadout all the time and you'd have to go back in and edit the files again if you ever wanted to make a change.