Cork Plane crash

02-10-11, 05:51 AM

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0210/cork.html
Bad news down south.

Gerald · 02-10-11, 05:53 AM

Really sad news!

Tchocky · 02-10-11, 06:05 AM

Looks like it overturned on the runway on the third landing attempt. Probably a Do228, that's the only Manx2 type I've seen in ORK before. Very sad news

02-10-11, 06:45 AM

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Probably a Do228, that's the only Manx2 type I've seen in ORK before. Very sad news

Fairchild Metroliner apparently.
3 confirmed dead so far, 2 critical and 2 unaccounted for

Jimbuna · 02-10-11, 06:50 AM

Tragic....and two survivors are still trapped inside the plane

Growler · 02-10-11, 10:08 AM

Six confirmed dead as of now.

tater · 02-10-11, 01:18 PM

Ugh. Sorry to hear about it. How terrible.

I avoid puddle-jumpers pretty much 100% because of accidents like this ("regional jets," too), last one I flew on was a "no choice" thing (in Nepal).

AVGWarhawk · 02-10-11, 01:44 PM

Sad news.

Tchocky · 02-10-11, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

I avoid puddle-jumpers pretty much 100% because of accidents like this ("regional jets," too), last one I flew on was a "no choice" thing (in Nepal).

In terms af aircraft, there's no safety difference between a mainline jet and a turboprop/RJ. Operationally, the majority of accidents occur on takeoff or landing and since these short-range aircraft spend proportionally more time on departure or approach than long-range aircraft, you see more accidents there. The difference is insignificant, though.

02-10-11, 01:55 PM

Good point Tchocky, look at the real puddle jumpers that go out to the islands from Inverin, they are only in the air a couple of minutes and in the summer are constantly on the go with the only restrictions being on take offs and landing each pilot is allowed in a day which means extra pilots for the 3 planes to fill the day.
No accidents on those routes at all.

tater · 02-10-11, 02:20 PM

The statistic for fatalities per million flight hours is more than twice as high for commuter airlines than major airlines. The problem is not so much the aircraft as the pilots, IMO. Commuter planes are flown by new pilots (they need to get hours someplace).

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm

I read another story just now that said 2010 was the first year ever that there were fewer turboprop than jet airline crashes. Of course airlines have been moving to regional jets for a while. In the US, 5 of the six last fatal airline crashes have been regional airlines (and they only carry 20% of the travelers).

If you have better statistics, post 'em.

Overall fatality stats will obviously show them to not be so bad because they carry so many fewer passengers per flight, all that matters for this conversation is the number of crashes per X thousand flights (take off and landing cycles).

I'd be genuinely interested in some better links for crash stats. I remember reading a few years ago about poor safety stats overall for regional planes and it stuck. If it has grossly improved, I'm all ears.

02-10-11, 05:51 AM	#1
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Cork Plane crash http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0210/cork.html Bad news down south.

02-10-11, 05:53 AM	#2
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Really sad news! __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Looks like it overturned on the runway on the third landing attempt. Probably a Do228, that's the only Manx2 type I've seen in ORK before. Very sad news __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,876 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Tragic....and two survivors are still trapped inside the plane __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Growler A long way from the sea Join Date: May 2005 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,913 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Six confirmed dead as of now. __________________ At Fiddler’s Green, where seamen true When here they’ve done their duty The bowl of grog shall still renew And pledge to love and beauty.

02-10-11, 01:18 PM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Ugh. Sorry to hear about it. How terrible. I avoid puddle-jumpers pretty much 100% because of accidents like this ("regional jets," too), last one I flew on was a "no choice" thing (in Nepal). __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

02-10-11, 01:44 PM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,287 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Sad news. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-10-11, 01:55 PM	#10
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Good point Tchocky, look at the real puddle jumpers that go out to the islands from Inverin, they are only in the air a couple of minutes and in the summer are constantly on the go with the only restrictions being on take offs and landing each pilot is allowed in a day which means extra pilots for the 3 planes to fill the day. No accidents on those routes at all.

02-10-11, 02:20 PM	#11
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The statistic for fatalities per million flight hours is more than twice as high for commuter airlines than major airlines. The problem is not so much the aircraft as the pilots, IMO. Commuter planes are flown by new pilots (they need to get hours someplace). http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm I read another story just now that said 2010 was the first year ever that there were fewer turboprop than jet airline crashes. Of course airlines have been moving to regional jets for a while. In the US, 5 of the six last fatal airline crashes have been regional airlines (and they only carry 20% of the travelers). If you have better statistics, post 'em. Overall fatality stats will obviously show them to not be so bad because they carry so many fewer passengers per flight, all that matters for this conversation is the number of crashes per X thousand flights (take off and landing cycles). I'd be genuinely interested in some better links for crash stats. I remember reading a few years ago about poor safety stats overall for regional planes and it stuck. If it has grossly improved, I'm all ears. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine Last edited by tater; 02-10-11 at 05:12 PM.