[REQ] Snorkel for Open Horizons

ustahl · 02-07-11, 06:11 PM

Now that Open Horizons enables us to continue U-Boating towards the end of WWII, I sincerely hope that some of the talented modders out there manage to mod a working snorkel
a) for realism, and
b) to somewhat improve the odds of survival.

Is there something in the pipeline yet??

Sepp von Ch. · 02-07-11, 06:26 PM

I demanded it...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ght=Schnorchel

ustahl · 02-07-11, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josef von Posorschitz

I demanded it...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ght=Schnorchel

Hi Josef,

I didn't know. But then again, there more we ask the more the pressure grows, and hopefully some genius will finally step forward and comply.
Without a Schnorchel OH is bound to be frustrating.

Sepp von Ch. · 02-07-11, 06:45 PM

I know, I know ... Without the Schnorkel is the way through the Bay of Biscay very hard in 1943/44...

I previously thought that the schnorkel is in the game because all the UI mods includes the choice of Schnorkel-depth.

Krauter · 02-07-11, 06:57 PM

The model is in the files.. It's just not included in the UPCFiles and the game itself.

ustahl · 02-07-11, 06:59 PM

Josef, I think that Schnorchel-stuff (and plenty of other stuff) is carried over from older SH-versions, where it actually worked, IIRC, and the devs just lazily let old code remain instead of cleaning out all non-working code-ballast.

Now, let's hope that Schnorchel artist turns up!

Krauter · 02-07-11, 08:34 PM

There is already a snorkel model in the game files. Or maybe I just speak gibberish

stoianm · 02-07-11, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

There is already a snorkel model in the game files. Or maybe I just speak gibberish

where exactly - i can not find these files?

Krauter · 02-07-11, 09:03 PM

Go to the equipment or sensor files and look at them in the Goblin Editor
they;re all there, periscopes, radar masts, etc and snorkel

ustahl · 02-08-11, 04:01 AM

IIRC, in the days I played around with SH4, there were discussions of file data carried over from SH3 to SH4, that however had no working function in SH4, one of those being Snorkel related data (plus lots of other irrelevant stuff). In SH3 that Snorkel was modelled and used to work, but not originally in SH4, IIRC. Much of that old SH3 data was just carried over and left 'dead' in SH4, the devs did not bother to filter that irrelevant data ballast out from SH4.

Now this dead data ballast seems to have been carried over from SH4 into SH5 (unnecessarily bloating its size), meaning that the SH5 data files contain lots of non-functional dead data from SH4 and SH3.
I'm pretty sure that any snorkel data presently found in SH5 files are such non-working remnants from earlier SH versions, and the devs just added new data and code onto the old frame to make up SH5.

The question now is, whether somebody could blow some life into those old Snorkel data rudiments and make them work again in this present SH5 environment.

Where is that genius?

02-07-11, 06:11 PM	#1
ustahl Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oulu, Finland Posts: 339 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	[REQ] Snorkel for Open Horizons Now that Open Horizons enables us to continue U-Boating towards the end of WWII, I sincerely hope that some of the talented modders out there manage to mod a working snorkel a) for realism, and b) to somewhat improve the odds of survival. Is there something in the pipeline yet?? __________________ Cheers Uffe

02-07-11, 06:26 PM	#2
Sepp von Ch. Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In my U-552 and Tiger Posts: 1,732 Downloads: 788 Uploads: 0	I demanded it... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ght=Schnorchel __________________ *U-552* *Tiger* *IDF*

02-07-11, 06:45 PM	#4
Sepp von Ch. Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In my U-552 and Tiger Posts: 1,732 Downloads: 788 Uploads: 0	I know, I know ... Without the Schnorkel is the way through the Bay of Biscay very hard in 1943/44... I previously thought that the schnorkel is in the game because all the UI mods includes the choice of Schnorkel-depth. __________________ *U-552* *Tiger* *IDF*

02-07-11, 06:59 PM	#6
ustahl Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oulu, Finland Posts: 339 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	Josef, I think that Schnorchel-stuff (and plenty of other stuff) is carried over from older SH-versions, where it actually worked, IIRC, and the devs just lazily let old code remain instead of cleaning out all non-working code-ballast. Now, let's hope that Schnorchel artist turns up! __________________ Cheers Uffe

02-08-11, 04:01 AM	#10
ustahl Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oulu, Finland Posts: 339 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	IIRC, in the days I played around with SH4, there were discussions of file data carried over from SH3 to SH4, that however had no working function in SH4, one of those being Snorkel related data (plus lots of other irrelevant stuff). In SH3 that Snorkel was modelled and used to work, but not originally in SH4, IIRC. Much of that old SH3 data was just carried over and left 'dead' in SH4, the devs did not bother to filter that irrelevant data ballast out from SH4. Now this dead data ballast seems to have been carried over from SH4 into SH5 (unnecessarily bloating its size), meaning that the SH5 data files contain lots of non-functional dead data from SH4 and SH3. I'm pretty sure that any snorkel data presently found in SH5 files are such non-working remnants from earlier SH versions, and the devs just added new data and code onto the old frame to make up SH5. The question now is, whether somebody could blow some life into those old Snorkel data rudiments and make them work again in this present SH5 environment. Where is that genius? __________________ Cheers Uffe