Glorious Israeli (probably) sneakiness!!!

[Torvald Von Mansee]

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...ear-ambitions/

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Time to go back to using analogue gauges...

[kiwi_2005]

No need for the Mossad spy, virus writers is the new soldier!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Virus writers is the new soldier!

Indeed. Most codes of this kind are written by Chinese today. The Chinese military is estimated to maintain cyberwarfare units with "combat troop strength" of at least 50.000, most estimation range beyond 150.000 though. The explicit target of theis weapon branch is the heavily depending US military, and the Chinese are running their cyber weapon program with a time advantage of around 15 years. The high computerisation and interconnectivity of forces is an advantage in conflicts against assumed weaker enemies, although the Taleban for example successfully have put this assumption at test. Against a similiarily high-.developed enemy, such high depüe3ndency on electronics and satellites and computers can easly turn into a critical vulnerability - even more so if training of combat forces wihtout using sophisticated communication and intel and sensor system and satellites has not been extensively trained anymore, or the wiunning cyber warrior defeats the cybersystem of the enemy without compromising his own high tech options, being able to make full use of them without them being opposed.

The Chinese inetion top deliberately tackle US high CCCI capacities has been turned into official miliztary policy of the Chinese very long time ago, and it has been pushed for since then with very big resources and great determination. If I were the US, this would worry me muc h more than the Chginese closing of the gab in combat capacity when just co7unting modern subs or aircrafts available in a combat zone close to the Chinese coast. That NATO just now has decided to make cyaberwarf a policy and pro9ject that from now on should be devleoped, tells me in what sorry state NATO really is. Even more so when realsiing that many NATO counties, amongst the mGermany, even actiovely (at least officially) deny the intention and need to develope cyber capacities of their own. The Bundeswehr has said at the summit that it does not plan to form cyberwar capacities. That leaves me just shaking my head. The Stux, which rates as the first major cyberwar strike in history, shows that there is urgent need to protect civil infrastructure in general.

Not evening mentioning the massive intelliegence war that is being waged all-against-all, and even amongst Western allies. The four biggest cyber-attackers against Germany, for the purpose of industrial and economic espionage, are China, Russia, the Unioted States and Israel.

Allied states? Friends...??

There is no friendship between states, and never was. The upcoming releases of new documents at Wikileaks probably will illustrate that, the US already are alarmed and have contacted other nations as a preemptive measure to prepare againstt he expected diplomatic fallout.

"State is the name of the coldest of all cold monsters." (Nietzsche)

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=175206

And a follow-up to the German FAZ essay that I posted in Septemeber. Both essays together give a very comprehensive descripotion of the Stuxnet attack, and background analysis on what it actually does:

http://www.faz.net/s/RubCEB3712D41B6...~Scontent.html

[Platapus]

As always, the weakest link in any security system is the human.

Without disciplined OPSEC/COMSEC your fancy security system is worthless.

[Armistead]

Seems to me we should have some old Sherman tanks on standby. If they ever do get this cyber war to an art, seems the nation that will win will be the one that doesn't have computers attached to everything.

When my 69 Chevy in line 6 breaks down, I can usually dx it with my ears and fix anything myself with a few tools.

My 2002 Chevy breaks....wouldn't even know where to start.

[Platapus]

Just think how vulnerable our forces would be with out GPS?

Even the chow hall uses GPS these days. LoL

While I am sure our forces are trained in orientation, how many of them practice in combat situations?

Eggs and baskets.

[Armistead]

That's what scares me, when a virus takes the entire GPS system down.
Hope they still teach em how to use a common compass.

Just think all cars now are somehow hooked to a PC. I read in just a few years to come the government will be able to track your every movement and could turn off all cars basically at will......

not my old truck.......

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Am I strange in that I prefer paper maps and the like for my navigation? I think it keeps me from being intellectually flabby.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Armistead

That's what scares me, when a virus takes the entire GPS system down.

Just be glad we own GPS and can shut it down for anyone else.

Quite sure we can jam GLONASS too...

[Penguin]

Very interesting article, though I would like to read it from another source. If they cannot even get the name right of the arseclowns who sell stuff to Iraq - they are called Siemens - I have my doubts about the content of the rest of the article, when it comes to information where you really have to do research.

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Am I strange in that I prefer paper maps and the like for my navigation? I think it keeps me from being intellectually flabby.

No, I prefer the paper nav either, it's great for you abstract memory and improves your spatial imagination. Though I love my GPS when I am in an unknown city or when in a sparely populated area looking for the next gas station.