Continental Airlines and mechanic guilty,

Gerald · 12-07-10, 12:17 AM

in deadly Concorde crash.Paris, France (CNN) -- The fiery crash that brought down a Concorde supersonic jet in 2000, killing 113 people, was caused partially by the criminal negligence of Continental Airlines and a mechanic who works for the company, a French court ruled Monday.

Continental Airlines was fined 202,000 euros ($268,400) and ordered to pay 1 million euros to Air France, which operated the doomed flight.

Mechanic John Taylor received a fine of 2,000 euros ($2,656) and a 15-month suspended prison sentence for involuntary manslaughter.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/eu...ex.html?hpt=T2

Note December 6, 2010 Updated 2259 GMT (0659 HKT)

gimpy117 · 12-07-10, 12:38 AM

have no regard for the regs and you'll get the hammer

papa_smurf · 12-07-10, 03:15 AM

Now Continental Airlines are disputing the ruling and are going to fight it. They have no heart for those who died, but would rather protect their own interests (and possibly the shareholders)

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XabbaRus · 12-07-10, 03:25 AM

Sorry but this verdict is rubbish.

There was no regard given to other evidence, eg the condition of the plane and its maintenace record.

Go see pprune as they have links to some good information of the crash.

The concorde in question should possibly have never been allowed to fly.

TarJak · 12-07-10, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Sorry but this verdict is rubbish.

There was no regard given to other evidence, eg the condition of the plane and its maintenace record.

Go see pprune as they have links to some good information of the crash.

The concorde in question should possibly have never been allowed to fly.

But why let facts get in the way of a verdict that avoids placing any blame on your govnerment owned (at the time of the crash) airline?

gimpy117 · 12-07-10, 02:29 PM

wiki says the primary cause was FOD from a DC-10. It says this strip was installed against rules.
But somebody had to tell him to install the part...he's taking the fall for his former supervisor and what not. I'm sure his supervisor knew exactly what was done. but somehow he skated free...shameful.

always a DC-10 those things are storm crows. It seems everybody finds new ways to break matainace regs on these things.

Jimbuna · 12-07-10, 05:06 PM

So whose responsibility was it to see that the runway was safe and free of debris?

XabbaRus · 12-07-10, 05:57 PM

Basically the French absolved themselves of blame completely.

There was eyewitness accounts of the plane being on fire before if rotated, there was proof the that the main bogie on the concorde was faulty and shimmying before hand.

the continental guy might have ignored procedure but he is not completely to blame.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord...ative_theories

GoldenRivet · 12-07-10, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

So whose responsibility was it to see that the runway was safe and free of debris?

in virtually every single air regulation, responsibility for everything no matter how inconceivable, falls upon the Pilot in Command of the flight

Platapus · 12-07-10, 06:04 PM

Kinda like being the captain of a ship: Everything is your fault.

gimpy117 · 12-07-10, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Basically the French absolved themselves of blame completely.

There was eyewitness accounts of the plane being on fire before if rotated, there was proof the that the main bogie on the concorde was faulty and shimmying before hand.

the continental guy might have ignored procedure but he is not completely to blame.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord...ative_theories

you are exactly right. rarely does only one thing cause an accident. But the thing is, FOD is a big problem, but it could have been anything that could have caused it at any time.

Tchocky · 12-07-10, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

in virtually every single air regulation, responsibility for everything no matter how inconceivable, falls upon the Pilot in Command of the flight

That's the truth. It's not exactly the fairest situation, but probably the only workable one

The spread of blame on this one is interesting, between the missing spacer on the Concorde, and tough titanium being used instead of aluminium on the CO DC10.

Oberon · 12-07-10, 06:58 PM

Hardly surprising, the French were very wary of blaming any French company for this.

An interesting spot of trivia for you all.

The Concorde which crashed was the same Concorde which was used in the filming for the film "The Concorde...Airport '79"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Con..._Airport_%2779

12-07-10, 12:17 AM	#1
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Continental Airlines and mechanic guilty, in deadly Concorde crash.Paris, France (CNN) -- The fiery crash that brought down a Concorde supersonic jet in 2000, killing 113 people, was caused partially by the criminal negligence of Continental Airlines and a mechanic who works for the company, a French court ruled Monday. Continental Airlines was fined 202,000 euros ($268,400) and ordered to pay 1 million euros to Air France, which operated the doomed flight. Mechanic John Taylor received a fine of 2,000 euros ($2,656) and a 15-month suspended prison sentence for involuntary manslaughter. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/eu...ex.html?hpt=T2 Note December 6, 2010 Updated 2259 GMT (0659 HKT) __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	have no regard for the regs and you'll get the hammer __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

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papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Now Continental Airlines are disputing the ruling and are going to fight it. They have no heart for those who died, but would rather protect their own interests (and possibly the shareholders). __________________

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Sorry but this verdict is rubbish. There was no regard given to other evidence, eg the condition of the plane and its maintenace record. Go see pprune as they have links to some good information of the crash. The concorde in question should possibly have never been allowed to fly. __________________

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gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	wiki says the primary cause was FOD from a DC-10. It says this strip was installed against rules. But somebody had to tell him to install the part...he's taking the fall for his former supervisor and what not. I'm sure his supervisor knew exactly what was done. but somehow he skated free...shameful. always a DC-10 those things are storm crows. It seems everybody finds new ways to break matainace regs on these things. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	So whose responsibility was it to see that the runway was safe and free of debris? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Basically the French absolved themselves of blame completely. There was eyewitness accounts of the plane being on fire before if rotated, there was proof the that the main bogie on the concorde was faulty and shimmying before hand. the continental guy might have ignored procedure but he is not completely to blame. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord...ative_theories __________________

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Kinda like being the captain of a ship: Everything is your fault. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Hardly surprising, the French were very wary of blaming any French company for this. An interesting spot of trivia for you all. The Concorde which crashed was the same Concorde which was used in the filming for the film "The Concorde...Airport '79" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Con..._Airport_%2779