Chance of an Expansion?

sk065 · 11-01-10, 01:44 PM

Ahoy!

I havent been on the forums since the release of SH 5.

I decided not to buy it because of the DRM and the campaign finishing at 43.

My question is, are the devs still ironing out the bugs and/or making an expansion to add in the left out boats and years?

Thanks

S!

Takeda Shingen · 11-01-10, 01:50 PM

Chances of expansion and further development are zero. The Dev Team has been moved on to other projects.

sk065 · 11-01-10, 02:02 PM

Thats sad to hear. I guess thats the end of sub simulation genre then. Ubi messed up big time

Bubblehead1980 · 11-01-10, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Chances of expansion and further development are zero. The Dev Team has been moved on to other projects.

That is just disgusting...

the_tyrant · 11-01-10, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sk065

Thats sad to hear. I guess thats the end of sub simulation genre then. Ubi messed up big time

Wait for the reboot in a few years!
now with hot chicks in your crew!

Grayghost59 · 11-01-10, 02:49 PM

If we the customers contact them by e-mail, snail mail and by phone, that should show them that profit is in this market. Money always talks louder.

Yosarian · 11-01-10, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Grayghost59

If we the customers contact them by e-mail, snail mail and by phone, that should show them that profit is in this market. Money always talks louder.

For a game publisher profit starts not until 150.000 sold copies.

Ducimus · 11-01-10, 05:56 PM

I think you'll be lucky to see a patch, let alone an expansion.

11-01-10, 06:09 PM

If you dig through the files you'll see plenty of comments that suggest
a "Pay me" for this fix type thing was planned.
Like the Expansion for SH4 was done.
With all the Villagers ready to Burn down Dr. Ubi-stien's abode?
I think they'll just move the lab and throw something ugly at us at a future date and call it candy.

Ducimus · 11-01-10, 07:09 PM

Personally, i think SH5 will be the last submarine simulation released for many years to come. Their just isn't a big enough market for it this day and age.

Takeda Shingen · 11-01-10, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Personally, i think SH5 will be the last submarine simulation released for many years to come. Their just isn't a big enough market for it this day and age.

You've been saying that for a few months now. I used to disagree with you, but as of late, I have come to believe that you are indeed correct.

11-01-10, 08:25 PM

From the SubSim Meet 2008?
I never really thought SH5 would be here now.
I figured on one more year till release.
(It needed it badly unfortunately for us.)
The market was bad enuff before SH5.
Then they throw out something that just wasted a possible whole new crowd!
As I go back and watch the hype?
I keep seeing Crack being sold on the street corner.

janh · 11-02-10, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You've been saying that for a few months now. I used to disagree with you, but as of late, I have come to believe that you are indeed correct.

You guys are probably right, but I would also not completely rule out any surprise from a new publisher that sees his time to enter this genre come now.

Also Sonalysts have been doing well recently, and might be up to "outsource" some of their training software for the navy again as a greatly simplified game. Maybe they'll finally work on a new sequel for 1950+ naval warfare.

My opinion is that if we were given simulations at a lower release rate (in contrast to Ubis new strategy), but each time with substantial new features and improvements as wished by the community, and great modding capabilities, then these games would have a long lifetime and may over a few years generate their 150k sales. And with good games like SHIII, especially once it was supermodded, I can wait for another 3-5 years for the sequel.

elanaiba · 11-02-10, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by privateer

If you dig through the files you'll see plenty of comments that suggest
a "Pay me" for this fix type thing was planned.
Like the Expansion for SH4 was done.

Jeff, I'm sorry but there's nothing true in your assumption of a "pay me for this fix attitude. And there's nothing bad about planning ahead for further development, free or paid. Hell, we've been using some code from SH3 era.

If everyone would plan ahead properly things would run much more smoothly in development, instead of hitting all sorts of bad / obsolete parts of code that you can't rewrite cause you lack the time.

BigBANGtheory · 11-02-10, 05:52 AM

Not just bad planning, bad communication also.

Its not just SH5 either this whole mess has damaged the entire Ubisoft brand.

The development team should consider going it alone IMHO, put a business case together for another publisher with proper planning and resign from Ubisoft when the time is right. There is some good work in SH5 it just not all there...

11-01-10, 01:44 PM	#1
sk065 Bosun Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 62 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Chance of an Expansion? Ahoy! I havent been on the forums since the release of SH 5. I decided not to buy it because of the DRM and the campaign finishing at 43. My question is, are the devs still ironing out the bugs and/or making an expansion to add in the left out boats and years? Thanks S!

11-01-10, 02:49 PM	#6
Grayghost59 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 14 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Expansion If we the customers contact them by e-mail, snail mail and by phone, that should show them that profit is in this market. Money always talks louder.

11-01-10, 01:50 PM	#2
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Chances of expansion and further development are zero. The Dev Team has been moved on to other projects.

11-01-10, 02:02 PM	#3
sk065 Bosun Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 62 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Thats sad to hear. I guess thats the end of sub simulation genre then. Ubi messed up big time

11-01-10, 05:56 PM	#8
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I think you'll be lucky to see a patch, let alone an expansion.

11-01-10, 06:09 PM	#9
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If you dig through the files you'll see plenty of comments that suggest a "Pay me" for this fix type thing was planned. Like the Expansion for SH4 was done. With all the Villagers ready to Burn down Dr. Ubi-stien's abode? I think they'll just move the lab and throw something ugly at us at a future date and call it candy.

11-01-10, 07:09 PM	#10
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Personally, i think SH5 will be the last submarine simulation released for many years to come. Their just isn't a big enough market for it this day and age.

11-01-10, 08:25 PM	#12
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	From the SubSim Meet 2008? I never really thought SH5 would be here now. I figured on one more year till release. (It needed it badly unfortunately for us.) The market was bad enuff before SH5. Then they throw out something that just wasted a possible whole new crowd! As I go back and watch the hype? I keep seeing Crack being sold on the street corner.

11-02-10, 05:52 AM	#15
BigBANGtheory Officer Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: British Waters Posts: 243 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	Not just bad planning, bad communication also. Its not just SH5 either this whole mess has damaged the entire Ubisoft brand. The development team should consider going it alone IMHO, put a business case together for another publisher with proper planning and resign from Ubisoft when the time is right. There is some good work in SH5 it just not all there...