Sonar vs Thermal Layers

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 11-03-10, 12:08 PM

Hi all, I was wondering if the thermal layers in SH4 actually help hide your sub from DDs like in real life. In TMO 2.0 they seem to help hide the sub from sonar pings as I found out in my first patrol with the USS-Seawolf as I was able to reload the torpedo tubes at a depth of around 300 feet with being heard by the nearby destoryer. As anyone else had luck with thermal layers in mods or stock SH4?

WernherVonTrapp · 11-03-10, 12:27 PM

Yup, the thermal layer (thermocline) helps in damping the sound of your boat. It also helps a lot more if the seas are rough too.

RodBorza · 11-03-10, 10:43 PM

Our buddy Werner said it all.

"Yup, the thermal layer (thermocline) helps in damping the sound of your boat. It also helps a lot more if the seas are rough too"

It dampens. Not hides your sub as a cloak in Star Trek universe. And also remember, bad weather is your friend. They always will have a bad time trying to find you. That beautiful blue pool that sometimes the Pacific (hence the name) becomes sometimes is only good for cruise liners

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Edit: I was going to do some videos on escpa tactics from Destroyers. I Hope sometime I'll have time do to them.

Dignan · 11-04-10, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RodBorza

Edit: I was going to do some videos on escpa tactics from Destroyers. I Hope sometime I'll have time do to them.

I would really be interested in seeing these if you ever get around to it.

Armistead · 11-04-10, 06:20 AM

The thermal lawer basically gives you a sonar coat. If you were loading, you obviously had silent running off, which also gives you a few value points in your favor of not being heard. Early war it's rather easy to go deep and stay under their sonar cone. As stated the biggest factor is rough seas, gives you the most value points, course calm seas you take a loss.

The best evasion tactics depend on water conditions. If they're rough I'm staying flank until I escape. If calm, I stay silent until a DD makes a pass, then flank so the charges fall behind, back silent.

Depth and the correct use of speed I seldom use silent running if I need to load my tubes.

11-03-10, 12:08 PM	#1
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,279 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Sonar vs Thermal Layers Hi all, I was wondering if the thermal layers in SH4 actually help hide your sub from DDs like in real life. In TMO 2.0 they seem to help hide the sub from sonar pings as I found out in my first patrol with the USS-Seawolf as I was able to reload the torpedo tubes at a depth of around 300 feet with being heard by the nearby destoryer. As anyone else had luck with thermal layers in mods or stock SH4? __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

11-03-10, 12:27 PM	#2
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Yup, the thermal layer (thermocline) helps in damping the sound of your boat. It also helps a lot more if the seas are rough too. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

11-03-10, 10:43 PM	#3
RodBorza Electrician's Mate Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brazil, Brasilia (Capital city) Posts: 140 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Our buddy Werner said it all. "Yup, the thermal layer (thermocline) helps in damping the sound of your boat. It also helps a lot more if the seas are rough too" It dampens. Not hides your sub as a cloak in Star Trek universe. And also remember, bad weather is your friend. They always will have a bad time trying to find you. That beautiful blue pool that sometimes the Pacific (hence the name) becomes sometimes is only good for cruise liners . Edit: I was going to do some videos on escpa tactics from Destroyers. I Hope sometime I'll have time do to them. __________________ I won't say nothing until SHVI comes out... good thing subskippers are known for their patience... "On the ship sinking business since 1996"

11-04-10, 06:20 AM	#5
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	The thermal lawer basically gives you a sonar coat. If you were loading, you obviously had silent running off, which also gives you a few value points in your favor of not being heard. Early war it's rather easy to go deep and stay under their sonar cone. As stated the biggest factor is rough seas, gives you the most value points, course calm seas you take a loss. The best evasion tactics depend on water conditions. If they're rough I'm staying flank until I escape. If calm, I stay silent until a DD makes a pass, then flank so the charges fall behind, back silent. Depth and the correct use of speed I seldom use silent running if I need to load my tubes.