The extremists are coming, the extremists are coming!!!

August · 10-22-10, 10:56 AM

Takeda Shingen · 10-22-10, 10:59 AM

I'm not so sure that Christine O'Donnell is a centrist. I'm also not so sure that the Neo-Conservatives that run the Republican Party represent main-stream America any more than the Progressives that run the Democratic Party.

EDIT: To me it is just another case of the pot calling the kettle black.

AVGWarhawk · 10-22-10, 11:01 AM

Beautiful!!

I had to chuckle when he said Nancy Pelosi and a picture of Skeletor is shown.

August · 10-22-10, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I'm not so sure that Christine O'Donnell is a centrist. I'm also not so sure that the Neo-Conservatives that run the Republican Party represent main-stream America any more than the Progressives that run the Democratic Party.

EDIT: To me it is just another case of the pot calling the kettle black.

You'll note my ultra stealthy use of the smiley. S heesh you Dems are a lot better at dishing it out than taking it...

Takeda Shingen · 10-22-10, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by August

You'll note my ultra stealthy use of the smiley. S heesh you Dems are a lot better at dishing it out than taking it...

I'm not a Dem.

EDIT: I am currently a member of the Republican Party, soon to be an Independent. I view the right and the left as equally dangerous, and are not to be trusted. To me, Christine O'Donnell is no better than Nancy Pelosi and I resent this man's attempt to recast the far-right as the new center. I guess what it comes down to is that I don't find guys like Klavan or Olbermann to be funny. I might if I agreed with their views, but I don't.

gimpy117 · 10-22-10, 11:22 AM

another attempt by the republicans to try to make everybody seem so far "to the left" so they can get away with being so far to the right.

Stuff the democrats are pushing was normal stuff 50 years ago, and many of our allies have similar programs, but now "it's socialism".

Buddahaid · 10-22-10, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

another attempt by the republicans to try to make everybody seem so far "to the left" so they can get away with being so far to the right.

Stuff the democrats are pushing was normal stuff 50 years ago, and many of our allies have similar programs, but now "it's socialism".

Then the GOP

is just greedy and want it all!

August · 10-22-10, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I don't find guys like Klavan or Olbermann to be funny. I might if I agreed with their views, but I don't.

Uh, ok?

Takeda Shingen · 10-22-10, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

another attempt by the republicans to try to make everybody seem so far "to the left" so they can get away with being so far to the right.

Stuff the democrats are pushing was normal stuff 50 years ago, and many of our allies have similar programs, but now "it's socialism".

Here's where I'm going to disagree with you. The New Left is definetly far-left. General Motors, for example, has paid back the government loans, but the Treasury Department still continues to hold on it's majority ownership of the corporation, making it very clear that a 'power grab' was the real reason behind the bailout, and that the 'too big to fail' argument was simply a means to that end. Such nationalization of the automotive industry would have been unthinkable 50 years ago.

In that case, Klavan is correct. Where he is incorrect is the assertion that the right represents centrist America.

gimpy117 · 10-22-10, 02:52 PM

were far left because of that....but it's ok to suggest that we should have a state religion..or teach it in public schools.

but yes, he certianally is incorrect saying the right represents the center

AVGWarhawk · 10-22-10, 03:07 PM

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Here's where I'm going to disagree with you. The New Left is definetly far-left. General Motors, for example, has paid back the government loans, but the Treasury Department still continues to hold on it's majority ownership of the corporation, making it very clear that a 'power grab' was the real reason behind the bailout, and that the 'too big to fail' argument was simply a means to that end. Such nationalization of the automotive industry would have been unthinkable 50 years ago.

In that case, Klavan is correct. Where he is incorrect is the assertion that the right represents centrist America.

It was not only a power grab but the union is in the hip pocket.

Takeda Shingen · 10-22-10, 03:17 PM

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were far left because of that....but it's ok to suggest that we should have a state religion..or teach it in public schools.

Woah, woah. Who said that? I have said many times over that the far-right's push towards theocracy was ludicrous, but they do not have a monopoly on insanity. And the style of argument used by both sides, which boils down to 'yeah.....well look what they're doing' is one of the primary reasons that the American political landscape is in such dire condition. The politician no longer runs on his ideas; only on the fact that he is not his opponent. That is not a reason to vote for someone.

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It was not only a power grab but the union is in the hip pocket.

Yes it is and it is wrong.

AVGWarhawk · 10-22-10, 03:28 PM

Yes it is wrong.

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'm not so sure that Christine O'Donnell is a centrist. I'm also not so sure that the Neo-Conservatives that run the Republican Party represent main-stream America any more than the Progressives that run the Democratic Party. EDIT: To me it is just another case of the pot calling the kettle black.