Vote for the hand that slaps you!!!

[Torvald Von Mansee]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_ap_pol...g_class_whites

Nope. Not a lick of racism (or at least stupidity), here!!!

[Skybird]

While I expect Obama to take a spanking in November, I wonder if this really will mean anything for presidential elections in two years - or if Ahnie Schwozenägga, with whom I seem to agree here, got it right when saying that due to being impotent to present a credible, reasonable candidate themselves, the Republicans will lose again against Obama. I think it is a very big mistake by the right to allow the impression that they could seriously consider Palin et. al to run a presidency. They should let her do damage by vomitting her usual poison, but make it clear in time that she is nothing the Republicans could ever consider to nominate for candidacy. With her they have no chance in the final race.

Schwarzenegger says Obama likely to get re-elected

[SteamWake]

I dont see the racisim there other than the fact that a single faction of a single race has been splintered off in the poll.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by Skybird

While I expect Obama to take a spanking in November, I wonder if this really will mean anything for presidential elections in two years - or if Ahnie Schwozenägga, with whom I seem to agree here, got it right when saying that due to being impotent to present a credible, reasonable candidate themselves, the Republicans will lose again against Obama. I think it is a very big mistake by the right to allow the impression that they could seriously consider Palin et. al to run a presidency. They should let her do damage by vomitting her usual poison, but make it clear in time that she is nothing the Republicans could ever consider to nominate for candidacy. With her they have no chance in the final race.

Schwarzenegger says Obama likely to get re-elected

Well, if it were Palin vs. Obama, you'd think it would be Obama, as he's so clearly more intelligent and educated. Of course, in the United States it's possible to be TOO smart and educated for some people. Frequently, the clearly stupid/uneducated will win in an election. Is there ANY other industrialized country where this sort of thing happens?

[GoldenRivet]

What i see is:

Dems put up Obama for re-election

Reps put up palin

The tea party endorses a candidate who runs on the independent platform

I know who I would vote for.

[TheSatyr]

Anyone who thinks Obama is more intellegent than Palin really needs to sit back and check the records. Palin was a fairly successful Governor. Obama (and his wife) were both failed attorneys that were both disbarred I believe,and I'm not really sure what Obama ever accomplished besides get elected President. (And to this day I STILL don't understand how a nobody with no real history like Obama could have beaten Hillary Clinton...other than the fact that he was a well spoken black.).

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Of course, in the United States it's possible to be TOO smart and educated for some people.

That is an observation and comment made by many German and European observers about the cabinet of Obama: cold intellectualism is not what Americans feel attracted by. They want to link up emotionally as well (that's why Reagan was so popular, he somewhat mirrors Obama). It is lioke that with many voters in many countries, bvut I think in the US it seems to be extreme due to the differences of the American interpretation of the presdiency. In a way, to Americans the US president always appeared to be a surrogate for the monarch they once rejected - and emotionally regret that they did until today.

Frequently, the clearly stupid/uneducated will win in an election. Is there ANY other industrialized country where this sort of thing happens?

Yes - in all of the Western ones. But most people just act more cleverly in hiding their intellectual deficits or underhanded intentions. America only is probably a bit more extreme again.

[Platapus]

Remember, two things have to occur for Obama not to be re-elected

1. The citizens need to be dissatisfied with Obama

2. The citizens need to be offered another candidate that offers a significant improvement (in their perception) over Obama.

Both of these has to occur. Remember 2004?

Number one may already be with us, but without a good number two (snicker), the GOP does not stand a chance.

If the GOP runs on the platform "I am not Obama" they will join Kerry in the long list of candidates unable to unseat the incumbent.

In political elections, the tie often goes to the incumbent.

[GoldenRivet]

so you are admitting that Obama's only hope is the lack of a suitable contender on the opposing side?

[Takeda Shingen]

There's no way that Team R puts up Palin. The stings of having her on a national ticket are in no way lost or forgotten by the party leadership. They'll pick a different sacrificial lamb for 2012 and continue to regroup for 2016.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

so you are admitting that Obama's only hope is the lack of a suitable contender on the opposing side?

Not at all. Only pointing out a famous axiom of political analysis.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

There's no way that Team R puts up Palin. The stings of having her on a national ticket are in no way lost or forgotten by the party leadership. They'll pick a different sacrificial lamb for 2012 and continue to regroup for 2016.

I think this is what they will do.

What serious GOP candidate is going to risk their run for POTUS by going up against the incumbent? The odds are already stacked against you. We are probably going to get a "B" level candidate and the GOP will save their "A" candidate (if they even have one) for '16.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

There's no way that Team R puts up Palin. The stings of having her on a national ticket are in no way lost or forgotten by the party leadership. They'll pick a different sacrificial lamb for 2012 and continue to regroup for 2016.

I think Pailin is playing the same part as Hillary did in the 08 elections. Her job is to draw Dem fire. Just like the right did in the last two years of the Bush presidency, the left will spend the next two years preparing to defeat Palin only to see a relatively unknown emerge at the last moment.

[nikimcbee]

While I expect Obama to take a spanking in November,

What does Paul the oracle octopus say?

[SteamWake]

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Palin is not going to run for President. But you libs keep looking that way, that is the intention.