Goodbye, democracy!!!

Torvald Von Mansee · 10-04-10, 07:22 AM

All of you millionaires (or RICHER) who post here should be pleased about this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

Castout · 10-04-10, 07:29 AM

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Skybird · 10-04-10, 07:29 AM

I'm preaching since years that there is not a single democracy in the West anymore. We have oligarchies, plutoracies and secretive lobbyist tyrannies, and mixture forms of all these. On paper only it still is a democracy. In reality, it all is a Mafia. It all is rotten and corrupt from skin to bone. Lies are the new gospel. Betrayal is the new virtue. Bypassing the electorate is the new sports of the self-declared neofeudal class.

Demoracy is as dead as "dead" can mean. It's just being used as a slogan in order to prevent the masses from open revolt.

August · 10-04-10, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

All of you millionaires (or RICHER) who post here should be pleased about this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

Where was your complaint when the liberal interest groups were outspending the conservatives by 7-1?

Face it Torvald. Your party had control of both houses of congress AND the WH and you blew it.

Takeda Shingen · 10-04-10, 07:49 AM

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Dowly · 10-04-10, 07:53 AM

Yup, same here. No registration required.

JU_88 · 10-04-10, 08:13 AM

Oh not the 'yours and my' parties thing, is any one really niave enough to have faith in ANY of these self intrested liars?
I'd be too ashamed to associate myself with ANY of them to be honest.

No matter who is in the driving seat - they will they over promise, under deliver and blame all their shortcomings on the previous govenment.
And I refuse to trust anyone who is incapable of publicly admiting that they might be wrong, nor can I trust a system that does not allow for it.

mookiemookie · 10-04-10, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Where was your complaint when the liberal interest groups were outspending the conservatives by 7-1?

So I guess you have no outrage when it's your party doing the spending, making you as much a partisan as you're accusing him of being, right?

NeonSamurai · 10-04-10, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I'm preaching since years that there is not a single democracy in the West anymore. We have oligarchies, plutoracies and secretive lobbyist tyrannies, and mixture forms of all these. On paper only it still is a democracy. In reality, it all is a Mafia. It all is rotten and corrupt from skin to bone. Lies are the new gospel. Betrayal is the new virtue. Bypassing the electorate is the new sports of the self-declared neofeudal class.

Demoracy is as dead as "dead" can mean. It's just being used as a slogan in order to prevent the masses from open revolt.

That sums up my view as well, with North America being run pretty much by corporate groups and certain lobbyist groups.

JU_88 · 10-04-10, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I'm preaching since years that there is not a single democracy in the West anymore. We have oligarchies, plutoracies and secretive lobbyist tyrannies, and mixture forms of all these. On paper only it still is a democracy. In reality, it all is a Mafia. It all is rotten and corrupt from skin to bone. Lies are the new gospel. Betrayal is the new virtue. Bypassing the electorate is the new sports of the self-declared neofeudal class.

Demoracy is as dead as "dead" can mean. It's just being used as a slogan in order to prevent the masses from open revolt.

Yeah one of the rare moments where I actually agree with Skybird also

SteamWake · 10-04-10, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Face it Torvald. Your party had control of both houses of congress AND the WH and you blew it.

They dident blow it in fact things are going more or less exactly to (their) plan.

mookiemookie · 10-04-10, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

Yeah one of the rare moments where I actually agree with Skybird also

Hah. You're right, he nailed it there. But who knows...I might agree with him more than I realize. I skip most of his 5000 word walls of text though.

August · 10-04-10, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

So I guess you have no outrage when it's your party doing the spending, making you as much a partisan as you're accusing him of being, right?

I don't have a party and yes I had complaints about Republicans acting like tax and spend Democrats but that's not what he or I was talking about.

mookiemookie · 10-04-10, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by August

but that's not what he or I was talking about.

No it's exactly what the subject is. Complaining about corporate spending is in fact what the thread's subject is all about.

You just tried to change the subject by throwing in some other little partisan dig at the end of your original post, as usual.

10-04-10, 10:33 AM

I can't speak to the nature of other countries' systems of government, but the US was never a democracy. It has always been a constitutional republic.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I'm preaching since years that there is not a single democracy in the West anymore. We have oligarchies, plutoracies and secretive lobbyist tyrannies, and mixture forms of all these. On paper only it still is a democracy. In reality, it all is a Mafia. It all is rotten and corrupt from skin to bone. Lies are the new gospel. Betrayal is the new virtue. Bypassing the electorate is the new sports of the self-declared neofeudal class. Demoracy is as dead as "dead" can mean. It's just being used as a slogan in order to prevent the masses from open revolt. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yup, same here. No registration required.

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JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Oh not the 'yours and my' parties thing, is any one really niave enough to have faith in ANY of these self intrested liars? I'd be too ashamed to associate myself with ANY of them to be honest. No matter who is in the driving seat - they will they over promise, under deliver and blame all their shortcomings on the previous govenment. And I refuse to trust anyone who is incapable of publicly admiting that they might be wrong, nor can I trust a system that does not allow for it.

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The Third Man Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I can't speak to the nature of other countries' systems of government, but the US was never a democracy. It has always been a constitutional republic.