Why Obama is so bad and why Europe loves him

[Bubblehead1980]

Dick Morris is my favorite political guy out there, the man really should run for President.


Morris explains why Obama remains popular in Europe.



http://video.foxnews.com/v/4341641/w...lar-in-europe/

[DarkFish]

I don't need Dick Morris for that, it's pretty simple. Obama is less right (or more far left from your viewpoint) than most other US politicians. Many changes he's been trying to introduce have already been working quite good for many decades here in Europe.

Originally Posted by DarkFish

I don't need Dick Morris for that, it's pretty simple. Obama is less right (or more far left from your viewpoint) than most other US politicians. Many changes he's been trying to introduce have already been working quite good for many decades here in Europe.

The standards of what is working well are obviously much different in Europe.

[JU_88]

So basically he implying that we're a bunch of self intreasted communists?
Good ol 'Faux News' scaremonging again

Two words for you "Foriegn policy"

[tater]

Originally Posted by JU_88

So basically he implying that we're a bunch of self intreasted communists?
Good ol 'Faux News' scaremonging again

Two words for you "Foriegn policy"

Did you listen to what he actually said on the point? He said that the specific opinion difference in Italy is partially that the country has a substantial electorate that is well left of the US, so any "left" will be more popular than right.

More importantly, I think he's spot on when discussing the national interest of Italy (and Europe) WRT the US in terms of capital flight. The bottom line is is it in the European interest to have a strong US that doesn't "look like" Europe. The answer is "no, it's not in their interest."

The rest falls out of that. I want the kind of US that I want, and if that is "bad" for the rest of the world... I don't really care. When it's in my personal interest to care, I will.

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

The standards of what is working well are obviously much different in Europe.

I don't know, it depends.
If the US standards mean bad prosperity, bad health, unequal wealth distribution and general unhappiness, then obviously you are right and they are very different. If not, then perhaps they are not so different as you like to think.

[Aramike]

If the US standards mean bad prosperity

Only a European would use the phrase "bad prosperity".

unequal wealth distribution

So wait, you say Europe has equal wealth distribution?

If you did, you would all be impoverished.

general unhappiness

Your gauge for this is what?

[Cohaagen]

Originally Posted by tater

I want the kind of US that I want, and if that is "bad" for the rest of the world... I don't really care. When it's in my personal interest to care, I will.

To try to group all the lands, and peoples of Europe as sharing a single political agenda is not realistic. I don't see him percieved as a popular president at all, but then I don't live in Italy.

[XabbaRus]

So hang on what do you make of Norway and Sweden?

Both socialist states, but regularly hitting the top of best country league tables, universal health care, happines etc....

Pretty high standards if I must say.

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Aramike

Only a European would use the phrase "bad prosperity".

Maybe, fact is that most countries in western Europe are at least as prosperous as the US.

So wait, you say Europe has equal wealth distribution?

Of course not. I do say Europe has a relatively equal wealth distribution compared to the US.

If you did, you would all be impoverished.

Or we would all be enriched This is just capitalist propaganda talk, that for some reason a relatively equal wealth distribution should mean that everyone is poor.

Your gauge for this is what?

That most people here are happy.


Remember, I do not say all these things aren't so or cannot be in the US. I only say that TheThirdMan's claim that the US and Europe use very different standards is false.

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

So hang on what do you make of Norway and Sweden?

Both socialist states, but regularly hitting the top of best country league tables, universal health care, happines etc....

Pretty high standards if I must say.

You hit the nail on the head

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

So hang on what do you make of Norway and Sweden?

Both socialist states, but regularly hitting the top of best country league tables, universal health care, happines etc....

Pretty high standards if I must say.

so in the current situation as Norway is a socialist country, but not Sweden but when there are elections in Sweden today, and it becomes an amendment to the left side,then it becomes a completely different scenario.

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

So hang on what do you make of Norway and Sweden?

Both socialist states, but regularly hitting the top of best country league tables, universal health care, happines etc....

Pretty high standards if I must say.

This!

Or well, the social democratic agenda has taken some nasty hits during the conservatives last 4 years of power. Will probably be at least 4 more years of them by the look of things. They better stay of our semi-free healthcare or I might feel that I actually have to engage myself actively in politics

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

So hang on what do you make of Norway and Sweden?

Both socialist states, but regularly hitting the top of best country league tables, universal health care, happines etc....

Pretty high standards if I must say.

blissful ignorance is more like it.

[XabbaRus]

Blissful ignorance? Could you explain I really don't get that.