MOD announces "Snatch" Land Rover Replacement

papa_smurf · 09-22-10, 07:55 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11388724

About time too, the Snatch needed replacing years ago. Now lets see if the MOD can procure these without going over budget.

Tchocky · 09-22-10, 07:56 AM

Fat chance on the underbudget. UK defence procurement is royally screwed up, in both priorities and cost-effectiveness.

I mean, look at the deal for the MRTT. A needed aircraft, at an insane total cost.

papa_smurf · 09-22-10, 08:02 AM

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I mean, look at the deal for the MRTT. A needed aircraft, at an insane total cost.

Would that be the one that's £10.5 billion overbudget?

Herr-Berbunch · 09-22-10, 08:09 AM

Snatch was never designed or intended to go to Iraq or Afghanistan but for Northern Ireland, and it was welcomed there.

I'd like to think that the current government would learn from all previous governments and barter for the vehicles, spares, maintenance and training from the off rather than the usual knee-jerk ordering the vehicle, realising nobody is trained, no spares supply and the deeper maintenance contracts don't exist and so spending three times as much - if not more - on correcting the initial mistake.

And that goes for ALL public money spending, not just the MoD but local government, hospitals, schools, etc...

...but that is just me and my madness

it'll never happen.

TLAM Strike · 09-22-10, 09:52 AM

Why not buy the Cat 1 MRAP (MRUV) or the M-ATV that's replacing the HMMWV? Then you are standardized with us.

XabbaRus · 09-22-10, 01:00 PM

Why don't you buy from us for a change..

Wait a minute you do. BAe seems to own most of your defense companies except for GD, Boeing and Lockmart or so it would seem.

TLAM Strike · 09-22-10, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Why don't you buy from us for a change..

Wait a minute you do. BAe seems to own most of your defense companies except for GD, Boeing and Lockmart or so it would seem.

Sharpest looking plane in the Navy...

Go BAe...

Tchocky · 09-22-10, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by papa_smurf

Would that be the one that's £10.5 billion overbudget?

THat's the total tag, actually.

Although, not including battlefield protection mods. I mean, by all accounts the MRTT is a fine aircraft and a good fit for the RAF, but the PFI acquisition method is inflexible, and very costly if things go wrong.

Herr-Berbunch · 09-22-10, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

...and very costly if things go wrong.

When things go wrong.

antikristuseke · 09-22-10, 01:45 PM

That implies they were not goiung wrong to being with.

papa_smurf · 09-23-10, 05:17 AM

Theres now a "discussion" about who will be paying for the new vehicle. Can the MOD ever procure anything without screwing it up

jumpy · 09-23-10, 07:44 AM

It's about time.
The company who designed the new vehicle is not too far away from me. I wonder if the need an unemployed draughtsman?

bookworm_020 · 09-23-10, 08:11 PM

You have already bought a replacement from us here in Australia, your welcome to buy some more.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmas...bility_Vehicle

CaptainMattJ. · 09-23-10, 09:56 PM

ahahahhhah the Snatch. Who the hell picked that car's name.....

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Fat chance on the underbudget. UK defence procurement is royally screwed up, in both priorities and cost-effectiveness. I mean, look at the deal for the MRTT. A needed aircraft, at an insane total cost. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Snatch was never designed or intended to go to Iraq or Afghanistan but for Northern Ireland, and it was welcomed there. I'd like to think that the current government would learn from all previous governments and barter for the vehicles, spares, maintenance and training from the off rather than the usual knee-jerk ordering the vehicle, realising nobody is trained, no spares supply and the deeper maintenance contracts don't exist and so spending three times as much - if not more - on correcting the initial mistake. And that goes for ALL public money spending, not just the MoD but local government, hospitals, schools, etc... ...but that is just me and my madness it'll never happen. __________________

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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Why not buy the Cat 1 MRAP (MRUV) or the M-ATV that's replacing the HMMWV? Then you are standardized with us. __________________

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Why don't you buy from us for a change.. Wait a minute you do. BAe seems to own most of your defense companies except for GD, Boeing and Lockmart or so it would seem. __________________

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	That implies they were not goiung wrong to being with.

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papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Theres now a "discussion" about who will be paying for the new vehicle. Can the MOD ever procure anything without screwing it up __________________

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jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	It's about time. The company who designed the new vehicle is not too far away from me. I wonder if the need an unemployed draughtsman? __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

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bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	You have already bought a replacement from us here in Australia, your welcome to buy some more..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmas...bility_Vehicle __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

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CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	ahahahhhah the Snatch. Who the hell picked that car's name..... __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison